Any Saw fans here?

That's true and they put a more emphasis on this in the third movie.However,one of the traps in the first movie was completely unescapable and sure to result in death.There was no escape,I'm referring to:-
The guy that has to be cut open and killed,so that Amanda can get to key,which she would need to stay alive.

This makes Jigsaw nothing but a cold blooded killer,and the producers conveniently forgot about this when they realised they had created a very popular,unique character.
 
I'm sure I read somewhere that this would be explained in Saw 5, at least the character would be given a history. Although can't be sure that's still the plan. Maybe he'd already failed his test and so was going to die regardless, so he was used in Amandas test.
 
They changed the history after the event. In the first film he delivers electric shocks to Adam, which he couldn't do if he was unable to move.

(I take it we aren't bothering with spoiler tags in this thread.)

In fact the opening makes no sense whatever way you look at it. Lawrence says something like, "It's no use shouting, I've tried", which makes it clear he was awake before Adam and has been for a little time before the movie starts. Yet he didn't hear Jigsaw moving around? Or Amanda, if you think she was there (in which case, how did she leave when Lawrence was right by the door?). Remember also that Adam's head was completely under water when the key was dropped in. He can't have been like that for more than a few seconRAB.

Incidently, I made a mistake with the time. It's 10 to 6, which is 8 hours, not 4.

I am in the process of watching them more or less back to back before seeing 5. And I've read up online, too (had to do that after 4). One of the things which intrigues me about the series is how dense it is; how the later films deal with characters like Kerry who are introduced in earlier films. I will also be interested to see how much of the flashbacks from the later films are in the earlier films. (Not much, currently.)

However, I first saw the first film in theatres when it came out, and I think it can be judged in isolation.
 
Although that guy wasn't playing a game. There was also the guy in the drill-chair, who as it happens is saved by the police, but Jigsaw fully intended to kill him merely in order to test his apparatus. Presumably he sees some people as not worthy of life, and others who can be rescued.

I think all the films have victims who's death depenRAB on the decisions of someone else. In the third, there's the daughter, for example.

It's also arguable that Jigsaw changed in response to Amanda, and became nicer and more pure in order to distance himself from her. Or at least saw himself that way.
 
I don't know if I or someone else linked to it but there is an official video going around of that opening trap. Good good.

As for the Cube movies, the sequels are rather poor compared to the first. Terrible in some places even.
 
So how come he didn't move? He never needed to scratch himself? Never farted in 8 hours? Never coughed or sneezed? Never drifted off and forgot where he was?

It's a poor twist. I much prefer the ones in the second film.
 
Apart from the first i think theyre all a pile of shit, but i will be compelled to watch the new one, just to see what depths of shitness, shit can really get to.
 
i'll be getting the 5th one for Saturday night..( if its in)..And another horror..or thriller....wow!! saw 7,,its a shame they are coming to an end,,i enjoy them..
 
Yes, I am a huge fan of the franchise....I'm glad they are ending it on the next one, cos it was getting rather ridiculous....hopefully the next one allows the franchise to end on a high note....Saw 6 was a definately much better improvement and revived the franchise imo....xo
 
Saw 6 was actually quite good. By the time it got to number 4 I was thinking they had ran out of ideas and were dragging it out and it should have ended with 3 but I must say Saw 6 was a big improvment on the last 2 films and closer to the level of the first 2 movies. I hope saw 7 enRAB it with a bang.
 
Thanks for that
thought she had come back...not been dead at all or something like that...thought the film was spoiled lol
 
SAW - a movie you can really get your teeth into! :p

Put me down as a fan of the series. I don't sit around and tear every little bit apart looking for sense, I just try to enjoy it for what it is. I do love all the twists.
 
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