Anti-Dreamworks Bias?

Shrek was fun, even if overrated by some. Kung Fu Panda was very fun, in retrospect I probably enjoyed that more than any other CG film done by Dreamworks Animation. Lots of fun action and visual humor, complete with an extremely unlikely protagonist. The Prince of Egypt was an excellently done 2D movie--yes, I have rewatched that, thank you very much! It's not The Ten Commandments, but it's a powerful take on the classic Bible story. Shrek 2 complemented the original movie. I don't hate Dreamworks movies by default. They've done some good work.

However.

These movies are not the majority of what they've made. Over the Hedge was just not very interesting, it didn't leave me with any sort of lasting impression. It was all right for what it was, but that's the thing--here I am saying it was just all right. Shrek 3 fell flat. I hardly ever laughed, its parody felt like it had all been done already. The plot failed to grab me and ended in a terribly anticlimatic manner. The most funny parts were all toward the beginning of the film. A Bee Movie and Madagascar, rather like Over the Hedge, are pretty standard talking animal comedies that are most notable for the celebrity voice talent.

Here's the thing. Pixar is at the top of the game. Comparisons are inevitable. Yes, one could find some common ground and ask what the difference is. Dreamworks has talking animals? Pixar has A Bug's Life, Pixar has Ratatouille! Dreamworks has sequels? Pixar has Toy Story 2 and 3, Pixar has Cars 2!

What's the difference? Don't look at what they're doing. Look at the how and why. When Pixar made Toy Story 2 they made another entertaining and funny movie, but the sequel also did something credible with the plot. It was right for the story. Toy Story 3, based on the early info, seems to be shaping up the same way. We'll see on Cars 2. With Dreamworks, there's an impression that less thought is put into it. Did we really need Madagascar 2, or should they have made a fresh movie? But Madagascar made money, so they tried it again. Shrek 3 felt phoned in and uninspired compared to what came before, and they might make a fourth. And why not? It's making money. Last I heard, there could be as many as four Kung Fu Panda sequels depending on how things go. Now I'm not passing judgment ahead of time, but sweet mercy, there is a point where a good idea just starts to get stale and old. Dreamworks doesn't seem too good at recognizing when that moment comes.

In comparison, no two Pixar titles are alike. Toy Story 1 and 2 feels completely different from Monsters Inc or Up, Wall-E is nothing like Up, watching Finding Nemo is a different experience from watching The Incredibles. And it's not just the art style or the setting, the writing is superior too. There's lot of humor that doesn't rely on on deliberate jokes per se, if that makes any sense. There's plenty of humor that doesn't require Eddie Murphy's acting skills.

On the writing itself there are often some very potent messages at work, to the point that it feels like the movie is talking to everybody in the theater. Children, adults, it doesn't matter. Now compare that to Madagascar or Monsters vs. Aliens. There may be nothing wrong with them, but they're movies you take your kids to. Nothing more, nothing less. I strongly believe animation is a medium that can appeal to anyone at all. And in evidence of that I can point to Toy Story, I can point to Wall-E, I can point to The Incredibles, I can point to Monsters Inc, and I can sure as hell point to Up. I can't say that about several of Dreamworks' computer animated movies.

Yeah, Dreamworks is decent. But they could be better than decent. Better than good enough. Pixar gets a lot of praise, but it earns it. I'd love to see somebody--anybody--give them a reason to worry. I see flashes of inspiration, but not consistent excellence. I don't think Dreamworks will get to that level with a multitude of sequels and the variations on a theme that comprise their second tier of theatrical releases.
 
I believe the answer to that question is ?yes?, but what really matters when it comes to sequels is whether or not they are any good. ?Madagascar: Escape 2 Africa? was much better than the first one and it had a lot of heart.
 
Prince Of Egypt was pretty good, so were the first two Shrek movies. Heck, I still want to see Kung Fu Panda. So no real Anti-Dreamworks bias here.

My only problem with them is that I guess the majority of their films just don't appeal to me and feel rather forgettable. You could compare them to Pixar, but I don't really need to. As they are, they are generally very boring, so it would take some good word of mouth from certain individuals, whose taste and opinion I trust, to get me to see one of their films.

I don't think they suck or anything, they're well made films even if really predictable, but they just don't appeal to my tastes in general.
 
Most of Pixar's films can be seen as dramas (The Incredibles, Toy Story 2, Finding Nemo, Wall-E). So are many of Disney films (Bambi, Fantasia, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, Pocohontas, Lion King).Both Agent Aika: Lace in Space and MD Geist are inherently better than Shark Tale and Sinbad. Take that!:radda:Dreamworks Animation deserves every meanness I give it, and more.
 
For me, it came down to this: the Shrek movies. On the first one: my brother saw it first and gushed about it to me. Then I saw it. Was a little underwhelmed but generally liked it.

Then I went to see Shrek 2 at the theaters. Oh my God, it was RANCID! cliched, unfunny, boring, and underwritten. Puss n boots was a major disappointment. So many people liked him, but I don't get it. The joke is, he has a reputation for being a bad ass, he's not, and... that's it? really? Was deeply, deeply disappointed by it.

And then it went on to make 400 million dollars and become the highest grossing animated film of all time. And I have never, ever forgiven it, the Shrek fans, or the american populace in general for this monstrous injustice.

Aside from that, most of Dreamworks is disposable waste. (will admit that I really liked Kung Fu Panda inspite of a few minor issues. But that one had some effort put into it's writing.)
 
Dude. Don't make me Netflix Sinbad just to prove you wrong about this. Anyhow, no, I'd watch one of those bad Disney DTV movie sequels before MD Geist. And "all anime films" covers a lot of bad stuff, let's not get carried away with generalizations here.
 
On a related note, I thought Over the Hedge was actually pretty decent. It was a sweet jab at commercialism and consumerism (kinda ironic if you consider Dreamworks), even though the message is different.

Also, Antz > A Bug's Life. There's much more conflict if the villain is definitely part of your species.
 
Dreamworks films only seem to find hate among animation buffs or the Internet, which usually means the general public has no problem with them

A lot of Dreamworks films also are very appealing to adults, some have some suggestive adult humor in them. I think that people on this site compare them to Pixar way too often, where they should be judged without Pixar in the picture, though judging from this thread, that seems impossible.

I hate when people just attack every film trying to point out their flaws. I mean, I'm sure if you looked hard enough, you could find flaws in Pixar films as well.
 
For about one minute.

It seemed like they had a great idea for a short film and then decided to stretch it out to a feature by throwing in a bunch of cliches.
 
Over the Hedge is a good movie.

Only Dreamworks film I don't really like is Happily Never After. I won't include Space Chimps because it seems like a really kiddy movie.
 
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