Another Reason To Avoid U.S. Beef

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Taiwan recently took some U.S. beef off supermarket shelves
because they contain a drug banned in Taiwan but legal in
the U.S. and Canada.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/02/20/2003496360

The drug, called Paylean or ractopamine, is used to make
animals have more muscle mass and less fat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ractopamine

It's effective at a trace levels, about 20 ppm in feed.

If it's so safe, why are no human diet pills based
on this drug? Hey, there's a thought! This might be
popular in the world of illicit drugs for bodybuilding.
A Google search shows there's been discussion of this
in bodybuilding circles. They're already discussing
dosage, which suggests it's already being used.
 
On 2011-02-19, Mark Thorson wrote:


This is not even remotely new. A chemical called stilbestrol was used
in cattle/poulty production back in the 60s. Despite also being
banned in most every other world country except the US, It wasn't even
phased out when it was discovered it was leading to a high rates of
cancerous tumours in cattle. The USDA, reacting to a food expose
book, only called for the reduction of the amt of allowable tumours
from 10 pounds of tumours per hundred pounds of meat to only 2 pounds
per hundred, though not actually banning the drug. That didn't occur
till the late 70s when its use was finally phased out, no doubt due to
better toxic additives.

What you are allegedly exposing is a long history of using any and all
means, no matter how slimey, underhanded, and nefarious, to increase
the profit margins in food production, a practice that is not like to
cease any time soon. The whole mad cow disease fiasco was created by
cattle producers feeding their own pen fed cattle the brains and other
unusable wastes from previously slaughtered cattle, in essence making
poor dumb beef cattle into raving lunatic cannibal cows. The dirtbags
would no doubt feed your poor dead mother's lifeless carcass to a cow
if they thought they could increase profits and get away with it.

It's enough to put you off yer feed!

nb
 
On 2011-02-19, Mark Thorson wrote:


This is not even remotely new. A chemical called stilbestrol was used
in cattle/poulty production back in the 60s. Despite also being
banned in most every other world country except the US, It wasn't even
phased out when it was discovered it was leading to a high rates of
cancerous tumours in cattle. The USDA, reacting to a food expose
book, only called for the reduction of the amt of allowable tumours
from 10 pounds of tumours per hundred pounds of meat to only 2 pounds
per hundred, though not actually banning the drug. That didn't occur
till the late 70s when its use was finally phased out, no doubt due to
better toxic additives.

What you are allegedly exposing is a long history of using any and all
means, no matter how slimey, underhanded, and nefarious, to increase
the profit margins in food production, a practice that is not like to
cease any time soon. The whole mad cow disease fiasco was created by
cattle producers feeding their own pen fed cattle the brains and other
unusable wastes from previously slaughtered cattle, in essence making
poor dumb beef cattle into raving lunatic cannibal cows. The dirtbags
would no doubt feed your poor dead mother's lifeless carcass to a cow
if they thought they could increase profits and get away with it.

It's enough to put you off yer feed!

nb
 
Here's a link to an article published yesterday
on how the U.S. is bullying Taiwan to accept beef
tainted with this drug. The other link I posted
was to a follow-up in today's Taipei Times. I
meant to post this one, but both articles are good.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/02/19/2003496273

I used to say that it was a waste of money to buy
organic, but I won't say that about U.S. beef and
pork anymore. This is a _very_ disturbing drug.

Fortunately, Trader Joe's Bavarian Bratwurst is
imported from Germany, where this drug is banned,
so I can still eat those.
 
Here's a link to an article published yesterday
on how the U.S. is bullying Taiwan to accept beef
tainted with this drug. The other link I posted
was to a follow-up in today's Taipei Times. I
meant to post this one, but both articles are good.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2011/02/19/2003496273

I used to say that it was a waste of money to buy
organic, but I won't say that about U.S. beef and
pork anymore. This is a _very_ disturbing drug.

Fortunately, Trader Joe's Bavarian Bratwurst is
imported from Germany, where this drug is banned,
so I can still eat those.
 
On Feb 19, 1:30?pm, Mark Thorson wrote:


We whack our farm animals up with all kinds of weird stuff. I have no
idea if any of it is safe. The government always says this or that is
safe, but since the Regulators are pretty much owned by the Regulated,
their assertions don't mean a heck of a lot.
 
On Feb 19, 1:30?pm, Mark Thorson wrote:


We whack our farm animals up with all kinds of weird stuff. I have no
idea if any of it is safe. The government always says this or that is
safe, but since the Regulators are pretty much owned by the Regulated,
their assertions don't mean a heck of a lot.
 
On 2011-02-19, Mark Thorson wrote:


Get the story straight.

"USDA is doing the bidding of large cattle barons afraid that
Creekstone's marketing will force them to do the same tests to stay
competitive."

USDA is jes the flunky govt figurhead for the industry, jes like the
FDA is the govt flunky for the pharmaceutical industry.

Can you say "fascism"?

nb
 
On 2011-02-19, Mark Thorson wrote:


Get the story straight.

"USDA is doing the bidding of large cattle barons afraid that
Creekstone's marketing will force them to do the same tests to stay
competitive."

USDA is jes the flunky govt figurhead for the industry, jes like the
FDA is the govt flunky for the pharmaceutical industry.

Can you say "fascism"?

nb
 
In article , [email protected] says...

It wasn't beef, it was pork, and it wasn't taken off the shelf, it never
got to the shelf because the importation was refused. In any case, the
stuff seems to work best on pigs, maybe it doesn't do anything for
bodybuilders. As for being a diet pill, has anyone performed the
necessary clinical trials to get it released for use on humans?
 
In article , [email protected] says...

It wasn't beef, it was pork, and it wasn't taken off the shelf, it never
got to the shelf because the importation was refused. In any case, the
stuff seems to work best on pigs, maybe it doesn't do anything for
bodybuilders. As for being a diet pill, has anyone performed the
necessary clinical trials to get it released for use on humans?
 
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