Announcement for Giganews and NewsDemon Users, Please Read

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TradeMarck

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I've been getting this question and moaning a lot and I do mean a lot

People seem to think that we "add bad NZB's to the index or that I/uploaders add NZB's that are no longer available by there provider...we do not do this, all files are there and it's YOUR PROVIDER NOT OUR NZB'S!

Lets' start here, any Giganews user and any resellers of Giganews (maybe someone can post the other providers, I'm unsure of them at the moment)and any users of NewsDemon (and if resellers to), will ALWAYS DELETE HBO/SHOWTIME SHOWS THE NEXT DAY...maybe even games/movies/music to, unsure of this...

It is a "KNOWN" FACTthat Giganews and NewsDemon will delete, True Blood, Hung, Entourage the very next day and you will get 'article not found' this is not FST's fault but your providers fault, so quit blaming us and blame your provider for deleting them, after all it is copyrighted content, and those 2 companies abide by those taken down notices.

Now this is not a attack on either of these companies what so ever, they just delete a lot of content, so if you like HBO shows, you better have another provider or wait from some nice person to repost it days/weeks later and then get deleted the next day again....also, like I said, any HBO/ShowTime show old/new will be deleted very very quickly, some may slip through the cracks but not many.

Try Astraweb, it's only $11/month, unlimited, free SSL, etc...20 connections, etc....

http://www.news.astraweb.com/specials/kleverig-11.html
 
jaymmmmmm said:
This is getting as tedious as Xbox 360 vs PS3 debates.

Yes, astraweb is almost half the price of giganews but giganews does have much better customer service and in general is much more reliable as a service than astraweb, is that worth paying a extra $9 a month for that? Not in my opinion but that's up to the user to decide if it's worth that to them. Astraweb fanboys who call giganews users losers or whatever for paying what they pay for giganews are sad, how does it effect you? It doesn't one bit, it's their money, get over it. This is from someone who uses astraweb.
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Thanks for your input. Well done.
 
This provider, that provider...

Posters should just stop posting stuff using full titles
At least for the scene releases.
There are numerous sites\IRC channels and such like where u can learn what "gtor720p-CoolGroup" means and in time with a bit of experience u wont need to go there at all, trust me
+ there are NFOs available.

As for nonscene stuff then for instance movies can be named with IMDB number+some info like
tt1379182.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-FuckURIAA
+ NFO included

It might seem kinda extreme but in fact its not.
 
zot said:
Astraweb's home office is in Singapore, and their server farms are located in San Diego and Amsterdam. I think the company is also still registered in Singapore, although this could easily change. (Usenet-news.net, owned by a Swede, has changed its official ("on paper") country of domicile several times already)

I can understand the confusion though. It's been a long time since Astraweb displayed their mailing address on the website. Although not operating under US DMCA law, Singapore is no pushover when it comes to copyright enforcement. The country has often been described as a police state with very tough laws in general, and I seem to recall one or two people even going to jail for ordinary file sharing.
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Didn't know that Astraweb was based in Singapore and I guess this shows it: http://www.who.is/domain_archive-net/astraweb.net/

But their US server farm is definitely in San Jose as a traceroute shows:

7ae-2-2.ebr3.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.132.9)
ae-73-73.csw2.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.69.134.230)
ae-2-79.edge8.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.68.18.84)
SEARCHTECH.edge8.SanJose1.Level3.net (4.53.30.1420
unknown.sj.astraweb.com (216.151.153.70)
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A VPN or proxy service can be very helpful for safeguarding your identity if you're using Bittorrent, Emule, Limewire, or any P2P network. But for downloading from Usenet, there's no need for a VPN because you're basically already "anonymous" and completely out of sight from the copyright cops.

Even if you wanted to get both Giganews and a VPN, you'd probably be better off buying the Giganews $20/month special and getting some other VPN, as many are only about half the price that Giganews "charges" for its own brand. (not that I think Giganews is worth the extra price, but that's another issue)

Check out Swiss VPN.

http://www.swissvpn.net/

Things I like about SwissVPN:

*Very cheap monthly price
*Non-US
*you can pay for just one month without having to remember to cancel as they don't auto-charge your credit card
*use P2P without being firewalled as most VPNs do
 
I can say from personal use that I have been finding a lot more incompletes on Giganews recently then I ever have, I have been using them for 8 years as they were the longest retention for a long time and a solid company.

http://filesharingtalk.com/threads/416940-The-Bounty-Hunter-DVDR-BOW?highlight=bounty+hunter

Here is a file that has been pulled on Giganews but is available on Blocknews. I've been using my backup more and more lately so dunno, might be a time for a change.
 
Hypatia said:
But let me ask u just 2 questions:

1) Does astraweb give ther subscribers 100% guarantee that all stuff posted to usenet is available?

2)Wtf do u need for an nntp provider with 717 days+ retention if u dont use its full potential?
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1. More like a 99% guarantee. That's what they advertise their completion to be, 99%
But personally, I'd be happy enough if every single file from Astraweb needed fills before it even could be repaired, because I set up my newsreaders that way: with backup servers to fill in all the missing parts.

2. When you combine several block accounts from different providers, you don't need to use each one to its "full potential" because whatever one server lacks, the other fills in. I'm not a download glutton, and a 200 GB block will last me over a year. Let's say on average I might consume about 15GB a month, then that makes my total cost around $2/month on average. If I instead used Giganews, that same monthly download volume would cost me $13/month.

So compared to what I use now --three piggybacked block accounts-- switching to Giganews would cost me 6x as much, and could very well have a lot more missing files. The only possible advantage with Giganews is 1% more retention. But I don't think that having a 1% higher retention is worth a 600% higher price.
 
unoriginal said:
I personally use Usenetnow and have never had any problems grabbing HBO or Showtime programs. Perhaps those that have issues should consider a small block account in addition to their regular provider to help fill in the gaps if they have any.
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+1 Usenetnow has block accounts at blocknews for some cheap little insurance and you just throw the settings in your newsreader as a backup and let your newsreader do its thing. or you can just switch away completely from highwindy.
 
Newsdemon sucks anyways. If you are going to use that service better off using Ngroups instead.

Do they actually delete them all or do they just delete blocks so it isnt repairable? Would a backup account help give the missing blocks at all?
 
Hypatia said:
This provider, that provider...

Posters should just stop posting stuff using full titles
At least for the scene releases.
There are numerous sites\IRC channels and such like where u can learn what "gtor720p-CoolGroup" means and in time with a bit of experience u wont need to go there at all, trust me
+ there are NFOs available.

As for nonscene stuff then for instance movies can be named with IMDB number+some info like
tt1379182.2009.720p.BluRay.x264-FuckURIAA
+ NFO included

It might seem kinda extreme but in fact its not.
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We don't do that, most movies and TV and games are bot posted not HUMAN posted.

And yes fine what ever so they don't deleted everyone, but they do get removed, not the whole thing, but just enough parts not to repair.

Just give it time you will get those errors :)

And yes it is a fact because we use ND and GN for posting/grabbing the NFO's during NZB posting and guess what I get "article not found" which means they've been deleted.

There were many posts about it HBO shows being deleted else where, and I've never EVER had one single article missing from Astraweb that I've downlaoded, the 200 days stuff is when Astraweb had completeion problems where uploads didn't complete and became broken. Most of that stuff is fixed now or has bee reposted....

The worst part is how can people pay an extra $20-30 more a month for Giganews....

Skiz yes it's a known fact, we get complaints in the IRC channel all the time about True Blood and HBO shows being deleted EP01-03 are un completelable both by users here and users at NZBSRUS, hence the many repostings of it.

Try downloading those HBO shows in 2 weeks or so, some aren't 24 hours, this was only an example, because it's been done and has happened.

For example Deadwood is just 100 days old and has been deleted from the servers...
 
Hypatia said:
Skiz

+1

Btw ive just tested Deadwood that u mentioned(~100days ago)

1)97 days ago, CtrlHD, 720p -all parts are in place, even small par2's

2)~92 days ago, dvdrips, small par2 isnt there(sometimes its available), all other rar and pars can be downloaded except for just 1 part in every rar\par2.-> can be repaired

3)deadwood , 46 days ago, 720p. Same deal. Smll par2's are absent, every rar\par2 lacks 1 part. Easy to repair

PS i get all articles(nzbs) from SUpersearch(newsleecher)
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Since when is Newsdemon Giganews, there removed from Newsdemon.

And you used SS which has nothing do with your NSP, try getting them via headers, article ID missing = article not found.

http://filesharingtalk.com/nzbs/tv/...ramedy-HDTV-XviD-FQM?commentid=340#comment340

Example there, no longer available.....you can not believe me or whatever....there will be times why you can't get them....

Skiz just 'cause you find them on search engines doesn't mean anything, there not deleted from search engines, just like SS.

And yes the Giganews arguement is sound and valid, they DMCA all HBO/Showtime shows, there retention isn't what is says it is, they keep track of data (mot other NSP's do to, but more for child porn) and are extremely over priced compared to most.

Skiz please join #a.b.teevee and tell them that there full of it and Giganews doesn't deleted HBO shows....bet you get laughed at...and imeediatly kicked....we have more than 5 people a days saying they can't get this HBO show or that HBO show and it's always Gignaews, now I find that strange...


Also, what most of you don't realize all posting is done via Astraweb so there will be bad spots...
And when you say you left a year ago, it's when Astraweb's data farms went down....there completion isseus are fixed...and what some people refuse to do in thee testing is use All 5 Astraweb servers....


Bad customers service with Astraweb, :lol: I've used 5 ticket requests mainly for changing billing and little stuff, and I get my ticket closed and completeed the next day, YEAH so bbbbbbaaaaad service.

And no my first post in NOT incorrect and/or false...

There is plenty of info out there to support my claim that Giganews gets' take down notices. If you delete the article ID, how is the NZB gonna find the article?
 
RainmakerRaw said:
Giga's support answers tickets within 10 minutes usually, whereas the last three or four times I've sent tickets to Astra (this week included), they've taken between 2 and 5 DAYS to reply. I last posted Astra and Giga tickets (at the same time) on Tuesday... Giga replied 5 mins later. Astra still haven't gotten back to me.
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It's ppl like you that drive up prices for the rest of us. Usenet isn't complicated, stop bothering the company with pointless support calls. The more money they spend dealing with newbs that needing constant hand holding, the less money they have for the actual service. Please stick with Giganews.
 
I'm having no trouble downloading that post from Giganews. Why do you think it was pulled?

Don't forget that the Giganews value plans (Pearl & Jade) have only 30 days retention.
 
I've pulled 600+ day old posts from them so no value plan here but I could not get that post, it would start on PARs and then the rest of it would disapear real quick but had no prob on blocknews so Dunno, I'm SSL'd, Fios as service, so ????
 
Im not flaming and all but Ive personally checked lots of True Blood releases(ive searched\created nzbs via newsleecher ) recently with nzb download checker. And the funny thing is: they are not deleted completely at all.

In 99% of cases its like this: nzb, small par2 files and probably sfv are deleted, all other rars and PArs are there but lack just 1-2 parts each sometimes even no parts missing at all in some rars meaning its easy to repair in 90%.
I dunno why is that. And i seriously doubt that they have been deleted since it seems to me quite a strange way of cleaning this "mess" =).
To be honest it looks exactly like when i used to upload stuff via astraweb and had severe problems with completion(thats why i switched back to giga)

I still have to find myself in a situation where i cant get TV shows from giganews.

Anyways id advise folks to check "suspicious" NZBS first in nzb download checker so they wont have to go through the painfull process of setting up a queue of stuff to be downloaded, getting articles and then realising that they cant be repaired))
 
SonsOfLiberty said:
Skiz yes it's a known fact, we get complaints in the IRC channel all the time about True Blood and HBO shows being deleted EP01-03 are un completelable both by users here and users at NZBSRUS, hence the many repostings of it.

Try downloading those HBO shows in 2 weeks or so, some aren't 24 hours, this was only an example, because it's been done and has happened.

For example Deadwood is just 100 days old and has been deleted from the servers...
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People may be complaining about it, but your original post is very deceiving. I'm not finding any trouble at all right now finding the episodes that you are talking about, even at the proper release dates.

For example - http://www.nzbindex.nl/search/?q=tr...ze=&poster=&nfo=&hidespam=0&hidespam=1&more=0

As far as I can tell, those folks are full of it.
 
SonsOfLiberty said:
It is a "KNOWN" FACTthat Giganews and NewsDemon will delete, True Blood, Hung, Entourage the very next day and you will get 'article not found' this is not FST's fault but your providers fault, so quit blaming us and blame your provider for deleting them, after all it is copyrighted content, and those 2 companies abide by those taken down notices.
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"Known fact"? Says who?

I watch all three of those shows and have never, not one single time, been unable to complete them normally with Giganews. I also rarely download them within 24 hours of the release so that's not it either. Nearly every time I download one of those shows it is 24+ hours later.

Just last night I downloaded all three episodes of this seasons Hung from NZBs I downloaded here on FST and did not encounter a single problem. I also grabbed the latest True Blood from this past Sunday, again, without any trouble of any kind.

Who is saying they are having problems?
 
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