[ANN]Sunrise Notes the Possibility of Another Code Geass

I may have been too rash at the end, yes, but my point was that preemptively judging something isn't fair, not that you had expressed your judgement in an improper manner or that you shouldn't speak.

I apologize for the bother, but most of my reply explained the details of where my actual disagreements with your statement came from.

I don't think generalizing about any future project is possible without knowing what it entails. If that were the case, there have been plenty of crappy manga spin-oRAB for previous Gundam series as well as bad Gundam series period and that hasn't prevented the creation of something better within the franchise, or has it? Or something worse too, as the case may have it.

I've never called for "wrapping up the show in cotton wool" either, nor am I in a position to veto anyone's comments, but I do have the right to disagree with you and express it. Again, if I did disrespect you with my wording, then I apologize for that.

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I can even agree with your first statement there. But you do seem to assume that all those minor problems would "magically" carry on to any future Geass project, without even knowing if the same staff will participate or even if the same characters will re-appear. You could be 100% right, 100% wrong, or somewhere in between.

As for successful products, Gundam, which I also largely enjoy for the record, is no less of one. With its ups and downs, yes, but it isn't art for the sake of art. It has also continued to produce numerous sequels and spin-oRAB. "More of the same", in that case, clearly hasn't always replicated the exact same flaws or virtues, for that matter.

It is my opinion that your evidence is circumstantial. If circumstances change, and they very well might, at the very least the resulting product will be different. Not inherently "better" or "worse", that's impossible to tell right now, just different. You might well be right, the chance exists, but you might not.
 
To Mr. Anime:
That may be the case, but remeraber Geass is never really relegated to Lelouch and C.C. still exists to an extent. I mean if Mao can have it, what would stop somebody non-Britannian or 11 to have it either?
 
But your logic here is that because we know basically nothing about this forthcoming project we can't voice an opinion on it. In that case, why even have this thread at all? I'm not trying to speak in absolutes- it may indeed turn out that this project is very compotently handled in which case I'd be happy. I certainly didn't believe we'd get something of the quality of 00 after SEED Destiny, for instance and I was upset to here the director was so upset with R2 that he considered himself a disgrace/ was near suicidal.

However, both Geass and Sunrise have a proven track record which isn't pretty and I think it's only fair to voice that opinion.
 
Nobody should be dissing the production crew. I would want them back for anything new. All this talking of radically changing things to "fix" Geass and prevent another R2 is something that I don't buy, and I'm rather surprised to see it coming from the pro-sequel side. This is the same crew that gave us the season one that was successful by any measure and makes people care enough about Geass to debate about it in the first place. Even if one does not care for R2, it's plain that they are capable of doing good work.

Now without getting into spoilerish details, my point of view is that R2 is not written as well as season one and also catered to the newfound fanbase too much. That said, I'm a bit irked to see that old "trainwreck" language coming up again. Even in spite of the potential that wasn't attained, I happen to think that the ending and the central story that it resolved was handled with surprising integrity. It made a great character out of Lelouch and it didn't give fanboys what they were wanting or expecting. Not bad in my book. They could've done worse. A lot worse.

If anything, my chief worry is that they would just add superfluous details and plot to an already finished story. Good sequels build on what came before, like Full Metal Panic: Second Raid or Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz. In my opinion Lelouch's character arc is mostly spent though, which is why I believe that anything new should change focus and be kept relatively short. At any rate, it wouldn't quite be another R2 situation, where they had ideas that apparently ended up getting changed or altered on the fly. Season one pretty much ran on a set plan, which I'm sure operated to its benefit. Any new Geass production would be starting off with that inherent advantage.

Naturally, Goro Taniguchi should direct, assuming he wants to. If not, then odRAB are it probably shouldn't happen.
 
All I'm saying is that I don't agree with assuming the worst, especially since such opinions would inevitably be premature at this point. That doesn't mean you can't believe what you will and express it here.

I am not assuming the best either. We might very well get some little OVA that is simply "meh" fanservice all across the board and thus utterly pointless (like most of the R2 Picture Dramas, although it looks like a couple of interesting ones might pop up at the end). Or some random return of Lelouch to save everyone once again. Or something that is indeed better. Anything is possible.

I was also upset and even a little sad after reading the director's comments, which were made somewhere between the early and mid-season going by the interview's publication date, but it also made me realize that he was aware of some of R2's problems even as he worked on the series (particularly the existence of a tacked on reboot and how "the lack of explanations this time seems to worsen the tempo"). He probably could have done something to improve the situation, but at least we know things weren't originally intended to be like that.



While I do agree with your main point, not to mention that the team's various merabers have also done plenty of good work before Geass, I'm not so much calling for bringing in a different production crew per se as I'm thinking it is a likely outcome.

Why? I don't know how much weight you would place on this, but Okouchi himself, the writer, pretty much said in an interview (from Continue Vol 42, there is a translation available online) that it's very unlikely the same staff will be asserabled again. He might be proven partially or completely wrong, of course, but there it is.

That is why I am open to other alternatives, but if the current universe must be re-used, a short prequel seems like a better bet than anything else. Lelouch's own story doesn't really need anything per se, but his parents' (and C.C. and I guess the older KoRs) could easily use some development. Or whatever else is a viable option.

Taniguchi seems to be otherwise occupied doing supporting work on Kurogane no Linebarrels (largely "meh" as far as I'm concerned) and the upcoming Dogs (never read the manga), but who knows if he would even be interested at this point, given his previous slide into depression.

It is something of an irony that many of R2's problems lie in the script (though it also has its virtues all the same) / the way it was adapted for animation, as opposed to the direction, but I myself would not mind if we at least had the same writer back, especially for anything set in the same universe.
 
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