Animated Romance

I never saw much of the series, but Sheldon from “My Life As A Teenage Robot” seemed pretty darn creepy in a couple of the episodes that I did see. Did he ever stop being so creepy, or would it be safe to say that he fits the psychotic stalker role as well?
 
Well, Sheldon did mellow a bit in some of his later appearances, though his feelings for Jenny never faded. His obsession was such that he even built a robot persona for himself called 'The Silver Shell' that he rode around in and controlled to act like a jerk so Jenny would reject 'him' and turn to Sheldon instead. Needless to say, his plan backfired.
 
:sad: Sorry, it's not that simple. She's a human, and he's a totally different species. Beastiality.

Also, Jake is still part human and can take a full-blooded, human form. So there you go.
 
You see, I never saw Bumblebee and Cyborg's relationship as being anything romantic. I felt that originally there was a rivalry between the 2 of them and eventually there was a grudging respect, but I never personally saw any signs of Bee or Cy having any romantic feelings for one another. Often the 2 of them bickered the way a brother and sister would. Anyway, in the Teen Titans comics, Bumblebee eventually married Herald. To my knowledge, she and Cy never even dated.

And I personally enjoy seeing cross racial pairings, although I never believed in pairing 2 characters up just for the sake of pairing them up. I especially don't like it when the only 2 African-Americans on the show/group/team are coupled together solely for that one reason. If genuine chemistry exists between the 2 parties involved, then that's different, but pairing off 2 characters of the same race just because they're the same race is shallow and superficial. Pairing off 2 characters of the same race and background is predictable and boring. After all, just because someone is a dragonslayer, that doesn't mean that he/she would automatically and only be attracted to another drangonslayer. To me, it's more fun to mix them up.
 
You really should watch the DVD and listen to the audio commentary of the creators of the show. My comments are based off what came out of their own mouths as well.

The way I see it when Katarra confronts Zuko after he joins them, you can read it either as Katarra telling Zuko, "Hurt my man and I will kill you!" or "I'm yelling at you and being angry because of all this sexual tension!" Lol.

I lost a lot of respect for Rowling after she pulled out the gay thing on Dumbeldore so conveniently after the book came out. Not saying Dumbledore can't be gay, just saying that Rowling has no testicular fortitude, bleh :p .
 
I?ve never read the book or watched the movie, but the series had shown her as one of the original fifteen puppies. That would mean that they?re biologically related.
 
in the 1996 Live action film .Two-Tone was one of the original 15 puppies.. ;)
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at least people don't freak out on that possible pairing.. though I remember Lucky falling for a Dalmatian named Rebecca (I believe).. in one of the later episodes .. though that only happened in that one episode... but then Cadpig temporarily has a crush on Mooch.. Rolly with Dumpling (who's a pig) .. ahhh amore.. *sigh*..

but then when it comes to Lion King II:Simba's pride.. it's like..OMG!! Kovu is Scar's son!! he and Kiara are together!! incest!! *dies*.. :shrug: ..

yes, I know they say in the movie a couple times that Scar wasn't his father.. but in the early stages of S.P. Kovu WAS Scar's son.. but the soccer mom's freaked at this.sheesh.. it would've made things less confuzzling if you ask me.. oh, well..
 
Well, I sure hope he wouldn't. But it goes to the mental aspect. Jake is human. He was raised human. He retains his human brain in dragon form. The magic seems to make a pretty simple transformation back and worth, compared to something like Dino Squad. That's just messy and I think those kids' genes are completely wrecked by now.
 
Young children generally wouldn't care either way.I,myself,wouldn't be totally freaked out either.Because if they had gone with the original plot Kiara and Kovu would be second cousins and in most states you can marry a first cousin without it being a big deal.And truly,it would've made the plot more grappling if Kovu was Scar's son or if may Kovu's father had shown up in the movie somewhere.Also,I never quite got if Zira's kids were Kovu's real brother and sister or not. *sigh* Family...
 
I might as well try to keep a good thread going rather than create bad threads. I believe that some interesting discussion can still come from this thread.

What are your thoughts on episodes of animated programs that devote most of their plot to the subject of romance?

I have usually enjoyed episodes that focus on the subject of romance. I understand that such episodes can have terrible consequences, as some fans tend to take things too literally, but I believe such episodes are usually entertaining and I like to see which sorts of relationships will be pursued by the writers. “Brandy & Mr. Whiskers” was a series that I had liked as of late and one of the things that I found interesting about it was that it had a decent amount of episodes that involved the subject of romance. There was A Bunny On My Back, A Really Crushing Crush, Bad Hare Day, Brandy’s Best-Ever Boyfriend, Cryanosaurus Rex, Funky Bunny, Loathe Triangle Rain Delay, Time For Waffles, What Price Dignity?! (Cheap!) and Wolfie: Prince Of The Jungle. That’s quite a lot of episodes; I believe “Brandy & Mr. Whiskers” may actually hold the record for the amount of romance themed episodes in a children’s animated program. However, I fervently believe that they were typically better than the episodes that weren’t focused on romance.

As I said, some people can take the implied romances too seriously. It’s shocking how many people actually support the pairing of Mac and Frankie, from “Foster’s Home For Imaginary Friends”. Now, I like the crush that Mac has on Frankie, as I think it’s adorable and it permits some funny scenes to take place, but it’s absurd that people honestly believe that there was substance behind the pairing.

Do you believe that more animated programs should have characters be open about their feelings instead of keeping their crushes a secret?

I believe that characters should be open about their feelings. It’s far too common for characters to keep their feelings to themselves, but such can also result in the character appearing unsympathetic. Helga, from “Hey Arnold!”, is a great example of this; most people actually hated her by the time the series was over with, as even though they tried to show that she was only mean to Arnold in order to hide her true feelings, she made his life a living hell and a lot of people never forgave her. There are still plenty of characters in contemporary animation who hide their true feelings; I have recently been trying to watch “Skunk Fu!” on Cartoon Network, in order to give the series a fair chance, and Rabbit’s crush on Fox is a good example of this, though I’ve heard that she has a secret crush on him as well.

Shouldn’t more animated programs have the characters be open with their feelings, if only to encourage children to do the same? It’s never healthy to suppress your emotions.

Feel free to add to this discussion. Answer the questions, reply to my answers, or do nothing at all; the choice is yours.
 
I love Jumba and Pleakley,though I've never really seen them as a couple,though they do pose as Lilo's aunt and uncle while they're staying at her house......Can't say it'd bother me if they were...

I HATE yaoi involving Kingdom Hearts,though....just because two guys are best friends,it doesn't mean they're romanticly interested in one another (esp. since both Sora and Roxas have a female love interest in the story,in Kairi and Namine,respectively)...
 
Quickly on Goliath and Elisa: Being that gargoyles are a race and the series is fantasy, I don't consider it an interspecies relationship any more than I would Superman and Lois Lane. That said, imo I truly believe Lex's relationship shouldn't get any less emphasis than any of the straight characters'. But that's probably what will happen. Disney does vet the comic, after all.



Or "He's my man, *****!" :anime:



First off, she was asked about Dumbledore's love life by an audience member in a Q&A. She did not hold a press conference to announce it. Second, I think the position of the book in pop culture was connected with the enormity of this revelation. Dumbledore is a household name. I always figured she'd reveal something like this 20 years down the road about a minor character who didn't survive the series. So I have to say I'm impressed. Ideally, there's more I would have liked but given the world today, given the market being so cautious on this sort of thing... It's a turning point. In its wake is the continued building of a Potter theme park, an extra movie added to WB's series, and who knows what's next?
 
Do you like seeing romance in an animated program?

Yes. I admit I'm a hopeless romantic, so any series that doesn't have a little bit of it disappoints me, sorry to say.

However - this is as long as they don't make it the main focus, as long as it doesn't take over and become the "A and B Love Love Show."

What has been the best canon relationship in an animated program?

Lina and Gourry (Slayers) Lina and Gourry go through a lot together, so there is a strong, loving bond there, though nothing too affectionate is displayed openly or publically. It's really cute and fuels a lot of the series.

Helga and Arnold (Hey Arnold) I like how they interact with each other, what they think about and try to figure out about each other (at least on Arnold's end), and how Helga secretly helps him out when he needs it most (like the neighborhood issue in the movie, or the Christmas present dilemma).

What has been the worst canon relationship in an animated program?

I guess if I had to pick, since I can't think of anything else - the Future Doofus/Webby (Ducktales) pairing? I don't know, it seemed really random to me and rubbed me the wrong way. I can't see it.

Additionally, I hate it when one of the main characters is too busy focusing on/drooling at the popular bimbo to be open to a relationship with someone else, as someone else said. Or when a character claims they truely love someone, but keep jumping around into other relationships, sometimes physical (like Fry in Futurama - sure, I know it makes for good TV, and it's funny, and he's immature, but if that boy loves Leela as much as he says, you'd think he'd try to settle down a little bit and prove he could be faithful if they started dating).

Are there any non-canon relationships that you like and/or support?

Ash/Misty (Pokemon) I've been "shipping" them for about 10 years now. It's rather nostalgic. I don't know, I think they'd make an adorable pair :)

Jessie/James (Pokemon) Same as above. It's canon in the manga but we've yet to know if anything will happen in the show.

Velma/Shaggy (Scooby Doo) So help me, I don't know why. I got that idea into my head when I was little, and it's hard to shake off.

I don't subscribe to the illogical/stupid pairings if I can help it. You know, the "they looked at each other funny in that one episode, it must be love!" or "they're the same age/race/hair color, it's perfect!" kind of fans. No, just no.
 
I have both the season boxsets, and have tried to listen to all of the audio commentary.

I honestly can't tell you I have listened to all of them, because I don't remember, but I can tell you that I don't recall there being any comments made regarding Katara and Zuko having the hots for each other or possibly becoming love interests in the future.

So could you tell me which eps have commentary from the creators that imply this hidden romance for Zuko and Katara? Aside from anything that's clearly a joking comment from them?I'm not trying to be a jerk, I honestly want to know which commentaries imply that so I can hear it for myself.



You got to see one of the new eps already?!

Lucky!

I don't think it's going to air again (new eps) in the states until later this month...next Friday maybe? (from what I've been hearing on other message boards).

Again, I didn't mean to be a jerk....the Katara/Zuko thing just irritates me a little.If the creators DO decided to throw in some sexual tension (like they did for Katara/Jet) and hints that they may like each other romantically in future eps, then I could deal with that no problem.

I admit, they would LOOK good together.But without any sort of hintage or buildup to it...then I'm just not buying it over the real deal development between Katara and Aang.
 
You're right, it's not that simple. Gargoyles of the flesh and blood variety aren't even real, so applying real world logic to a Gargoyle/Human relationship is a bit futile. Plus, as mentioned, they have the same awareness and sentient capabilities of a human.
 
I am referring to their comments on the Season 3 Volume 2 individual DVD release. They do have commentary tracks on this release. They specifically do a commentary on the first part of Day of Black Sun, and they do talk about the Katarra/Aang kiss. Basically they are nowhere near as absolute about it as you are ;) .



I'm not saying I support the Zuko/Katarra pairing. But I am saying they have teased it before, not necessarily overtly, but it was there. I'm also not saying this is the direction it will go definitively, but you know there a ton of people on deviantart that would disagree with you.



Yeah but did they you know . . . ?



I would've been impressed if she did it before the book came out to rave reviews and sales. I think kind of like Greg Weisman about Lexington, that doing such is a COP OUT.

I also believe WB forcing the last book into two movies is cheap, poorly conceived cash in attempt. Sometimes milking a franchise works out really bad.
 
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