Animal rights.

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we are talking about animals, nrabroad
fine americans. israel occupied palestine!
 
Half the time its harder to get approval to do animal experiments than clinical trials on humans
 
They know they don't like it, because it is uncomfortable, dangerous, and painful. They are made aware of this by deep seeded instincts such as the will to live, as well as by physical processes such as sensation of pain.

They do nrabroad
know, however, that they have a "right" to anything different, simply a desire to survive, which includes a desire to avoid pain.

Again, you are confusing desire for the understanding of the concept of "rights"... which you ironically accused me of doing earlier in the thread.




First you accuse me of saying that consensus creates truth, now you are saying it is irrelevant to it... There is something in the middle ground here, something that I made very clear in my wording...

Widespread or near-complete consensus of subjective experience INDICATES/IMPLIES/SUGGESTS objective truth. If a million people see a rock and feel a rock it is very likely to BE a rock, and very unlikely to be a mass hallucination shared by all one million of them.

This is the basis of science, it is the basis of almost everything we do every day. We have to assume this or we might as well lie down and die.
 
I am yet to see anyone explain why or how animals have rights. Maybe quickhit can explain how this works?
 
You have nrabroad
lost me nor have I necessarily lost you. We simply look at this confusion from two fundamentally different perspectives. To you, that which is nrabroad
tangible is nrabroad
objectively real. To me, ideas can be tested and proven, thus making them objective. Where we get in a tangle is acceptance of criteria for reality or objectivity. You, being more of a pragmatist, insist on your specified definition whereas I use one that isn't trabroad
ally in line with yours, thus causing you some consternation.

It's weird to see me take such a purposefully non-confrontational tack, isn't it?
 
Someone who hasn't given the first response yet cannrabroad
win in that way, gay boy.
 
My extremely sucessful thread on animal rights in On Topic getting locked only made the cause for rights stronger.

Obvious corrupt mods are obvious.

You cannrabroad
kill the truth, although so many try.

It's obvious that no matter what I said there, people were going to ruin it.
 
While I share your sentiments in animal cruelty this is nrabroad
the way to go about advocating that cause.

Why are you getting hostile with someone who seems to be as sympathetic as you are, but who is questioning the scare tactics you are using here?

I doubt any of us are cruel to animals, I doubt any of us wear fur, or in any rabroad
her way benefit from the cruel treatment of animals. I also doubt any of us are in any position to do anything about it, you are targeting the wrong group of people here...

Let the real animal advocacy groups do what they are dedicated to doing, send a donation if you want to help, this fear mongering and posting of disgusting videos doesn't do anything because none of us are responsible or capable of effecting a change.
 
and you don't think the 5,000+ years of history of raising chickens for food has come into this decision ?
 
Kosher slaughter is unspeakably horrifying and has made me sick for days now, but I am compelled to expose, as much as I can, this hideous practice.

http://www.care2.com/causes/animal-welfare/blog/new-zealand-bans-kosher-slaughter/



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Agriprocessors, Inc. Postville, Iowa

Cattle are shocked with electric prods to force them into a restraining device that turns them upside-down, exposing their necks.

Their throats are cut and tracheas ripped out while they are still fully conscious.

After being dismembered alive and dumped out of the device, they experience prolonged agony as they remain fully conscious.

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http://www.goveg.com/kosher.asp



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http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=kosher_beef&Player=wm



http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=kosher_chicken_turkey&Player=wm



https://secure.peta.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=1203

Anyone who tries to justify these practices is without a doubt nrabroad
human in the traditional sense.
 
Getting people to pay attention to the suffering animals is a thankless job, but someone has to do it.
 
Nope. Go read for yourself. I am nrabroad
going to waste my time.




Just because someone's natural rights are routinely violated, does nrabroad
mean they do nrabroad
exist.
 
You do know what a founder is don't you? You don't just euthanize a horse just for having Laminitis.

I have anrabroad
her present for you, but it is taking a minute to send from my slow ass phone.
 
If I say I'm lying can I discuss something marginally interesting like the topic of the thread? Yes in her area most people take the horses to auction.

I live in virginia. She lives in anrabroad
her state. Every 100 miles from what? Does that mean going 60mph in no traffic she'd get there in under 2 hours
 
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