Andrew Cuomo criticized for "public concubinage" of Sandra Lee

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Mark Thorson wrote:


Yet another example of why I am a recovering Catholic. This guy sounds like
some of the clergy and nuns who terrorized my childhood with their
fundamentalist cultic zealotry.

And besides that they still won't answer my most burning question about the
faith... when they "legalized" eating meat on Friday, what happened to the
people who went to hell for it? Did they get let out? Sister Mary
Mindcontrol didn't like that question.

For some reason I can't get a straight answer. ;-)

MartyB
 
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[email protected]d says...

And if it had been an atheist government that wanted to remove all
Moorish influence from Spain, having just fought a long and bloody war
against the Moors, that would be all right?
 
Andrew Cuomo criticized for "public concubinage" of Sandra Lee

On Feb 24, 1:13?pm, Mark Thorson wrote:

The Catholic Church hierarchy lost most of its moral authority over
the decades it protected child rapists. How many priests and bishops
have been excommunicated? Can Bernard Law still take communion?
 
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[email protected]d says...

No, they didn't, if that's what you got.


"Some churches"? Are you talking about Catholicism or about some
nutcake cult? There is only one Church in catholicism.


They can enumerate all they want to, that does not mean that their
enumeration is in accordance with Church doctrine.


Your point being?


Then you really need to get hold of the Bishop and scream bloody murder
about those idiots.


Boo hoo.


What makes you think that the "nut" represent the Vatican? Does it say
anywhere "official spokeman for the Vatican"?

And I'm an atheist. People bashing religion for the wrong reasons make
atheists look bad.


Why should they get out of Hell? The sin was disobedience. Changing
the rule doesn't alter the fact that you disobeyed it.
 
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spamtrap1888 wrote:


All Eurpoean governments of that period were under defacto control of the
Church. IIRC you will find that Catholicism was the state religion. And the
monarchs did indeed call for the releasing of the hounds.

There's no revision that can justify or absolve anyone involved to my way of
thinking. It's just another example of why I feel sorry for those who lived
in medieval times.

MartyB
 
Andrew Cuomo criticized for "public concubinage" of Sandra Lee

On Feb 24, 4:31?pm, spamtrap1888 wrote:

Plis, what the the Vatican really know about anything anyway!!
 
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Janet wrote:


Being psychologically abused by a cultic religion isn't an error. And on the
historical point, however you define it, yes, it was a powerful threat,
powerful enough to shape a huge chunk of world history.
 
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J. Clarke wrote:


"Atheist" government? And how did you go from Jews to Moors? And do you know
what the Inquisitors were Inquisiting about?

In any case, another example of why church and state should remain separate.
 
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Bob Terwilliger wrote:


I know Popes were able to cause at least one monarch to grovel outside the
pope's winter home dressed in burlap by way of beseeching said pope to
withdraw excommunication of his entire country. My point was, however you
define it, religious authority figures controlled states. And my other point
was that at least through my formative years, on a smaller scale, such
terroristic use of supposed god given truths and the consequences for not
respecting them was commonly used to mold and control people in a somewhat
cultic fashion.

MartyB
 
spamtrap1888 wrote:


And here I thought they had already blown it with the Spanish Inquisition,
torturing Galileo, enslaving native Americans and massacres in the
Philipines.

Amazing how "moral authority" can bounce back.


Steve
 
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J. Clarke wrote:


Fine, say it in different words since you apparently feel the need to argue
with me. And the Constitution put an end to state religions of any kind
which would mandate or endorse any particular faith. Are you that desperate
for an argument?

BTW, check for yourself on which founding fathers were atheists and
agnostics.
 
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J. Clarke wrote:


An atheist defending religion. Like I said, both schools of thought fall
apart IMO where they insist on beliefs which cannot possibly be known. And I
am certain it is of no use pointing out to you what those beliefs are or why
they cannot be known.

Anyway I find you obnoxious. Go lay down somewhere.
 
On 2/24/2011 3:13 PM, Mark Thorson wrote:

Er, Uhm, ah, eh! ???? It's not like the catholic church is without
hypocrisy, eh? Many, many of its clergy and former Popes, have had
'housekeepers' (aka, mistresses, concubines, mates, etc.), eh, over the
many past centuries, eh? Not to mention its many pedophiles .... !!

Sky

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J. Clarke wrote:


You're an atheist, you don't say you ever had any experience with being
Catholic, yet you have all this knowledge.

No, you're wrong. Excommunication by definition supposedly guarantees your
ass is going to hell.

But go ahead and argue more by claiming facts that amount to conjecture from
a distance. The nice thing about facts is that they are true even if you
choose to believe something else.
 
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