AsIaN~WoLf LoVeR
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Not only that, but you're over doubling the potential energy of impact.
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martyleo12
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well like i said i usually dont go much more then 5- 10 over the limit but i have gone 105 in my car on the highway. I wanted to see what i could do in an escort....
Luckey Haskins
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oh come on, guys. my hybrid sedan does 102. you have to beat that.
AlabastorWoods
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Why is it that people always equate speed with danger? Yes, it
irishmom91562
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crashing on a motorcycle can fucking hurt like shit.
amazon dot com buyer...
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Could we all just shut the fuck up about the miles per hour and km/h shit. Countrys are different and things are named differently! :ticked:
tucsonsunapt
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thank you
ijoinedyou
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my mom has a '04 focous wagon (ztw) and it does 120mph
shannon
i have never crashed, however as a mathematician i know all the ways it's unsafe.
doubling your speed means quadrupling your force of impact. also, your story about speeding up with a guy tailgating you is a pretty bike-only sounding story. on a bike, you don't want some pickup truck tossing you off when you're going 70 (44mph). also, a bike can turn better, accelerate better, and stop better than a car. so you have an inherent advantage.
but in a car, if i'm going 120 (75mph) and someone's tailgating me i'm going to move over the first chance i get. usually you don't have that kind of speed where i live unless you're on a freeway; thus there are more lanes.
if someone's up my ass on a 70 road, i let them tailgate me. whatever. in my white car (usual situation), there's not much i can do about it. it's not equipped to perform, so speeding up too much is not safe for anything which isn't moving. in my red car, sometimes i'll fuck with people (pull the e-brake to slow down really fast with no lights and give them a heart attack), because they can't catch me if they want to start something..
~ dan ~
i have never crashed, however as a mathematician i know all the ways it's unsafe.
doubling your speed means quadrupling your force of impact. also, your story about speeding up with a guy tailgating you is a pretty bike-only sounding story. on a bike, you don't want some pickup truck tossing you off when you're going 70 (44mph). also, a bike can turn better, accelerate better, and stop better than a car. so you have an inherent advantage.
but in a car, if i'm going 120 (75mph) and someone's tailgating me i'm going to move over the first chance i get. usually you don't have that kind of speed where i live unless you're on a freeway; thus there are more lanes.
if someone's up my ass on a 70 road, i let them tailgate me. whatever. in my white car (usual situation), there's not much i can do about it. it's not equipped to perform, so speeding up too much is not safe for anything which isn't moving. in my red car, sometimes i'll fuck with people (pull the e-brake to slow down really fast with no lights and give them a heart attack), because they can't catch me if they want to start something..
~ dan ~
Maryanne L
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morelos wrote:
>i have never crashed, however as a mathematician i know all the ways it's unsafe.
As a mathematician you know the physics of a crash. As a professionally trained driver/rider I know what causes crashes.
>doubling your speed means quadrupling your force of impact.
That is true but it isn
>i have never crashed, however as a mathematician i know all the ways it's unsafe.
As a mathematician you know the physics of a crash. As a professionally trained driver/rider I know what causes crashes.
>doubling your speed means quadrupling your force of impact.
That is true but it isn
you don't need to be a trained driver or trained rider to know what causes crashes. you need to be a licensed driver with common sense and experience. i'm not a live-in-my-car driver, but i mean i have like 300,000 miles on various cars (in 8 years of driving total), so i'm decently experienced. i've run strip races, i've run street races.
i'm not concerned with getting moderately rear-ended.
that's the thing you're doing that most people do wrong: thinking about you and the car you could potentially hit.
here's my main concern: when i'm driving on the street, i don't really give a fuck if another 3000lb car hits me. i'll probably be fine, they'll probably be fine. on a motorcycle i can see why you'd feel differently, but hear me out. i'm a 3000 pound piece of metal.
it's my 3000 pound piece of metal versus someone's 45 pound fleshy child that i'm worried about. i couldn't care much less about my vehicle's safety or my safety in my vehicle.
that's why you want to go slower. it's not to protect yourself. it's to protect others.
~ dan ~
did they teach you in your 'training' that you should invest more in making your vehicle able to STOP than in making it able to GO?
my red car can stop so hard that the seats fold forward and the motor chokes out. and that's without breaking traction.
need efi.
i'm not concerned with getting moderately rear-ended.
that's the thing you're doing that most people do wrong: thinking about you and the car you could potentially hit.
here's my main concern: when i'm driving on the street, i don't really give a fuck if another 3000lb car hits me. i'll probably be fine, they'll probably be fine. on a motorcycle i can see why you'd feel differently, but hear me out. i'm a 3000 pound piece of metal.
it's my 3000 pound piece of metal versus someone's 45 pound fleshy child that i'm worried about. i couldn't care much less about my vehicle's safety or my safety in my vehicle.
that's why you want to go slower. it's not to protect yourself. it's to protect others.
~ dan ~
did they teach you in your 'training' that you should invest more in making your vehicle able to STOP than in making it able to GO?
my red car can stop so hard that the seats fold forward and the motor chokes out. and that's without breaking traction.
need efi.
Sebboh is back!
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Maybe we should just start our own thread so we are not jumping all over the place.
morelos wrote:
>you don't need to be a trained driver or trained rider to know what causes crashes. you need to be a licensed driver with common sense and experience.
Clearly this is not true, given the number of people who think that speed causes crashes.
> i've run street races.
Another example of your askew version of safety?
>did they teach you in your 'training' that you should invest more in making your vehicle able to STOP than in making it able to GO?
My bike has a braking distance from100kph/60mph of about 50ft. That
morelos wrote:
>you don't need to be a trained driver or trained rider to know what causes crashes. you need to be a licensed driver with common sense and experience.
Clearly this is not true, given the number of people who think that speed causes crashes.
> i've run street races.
Another example of your askew version of safety?
>did they teach you in your 'training' that you should invest more in making your vehicle able to STOP than in making it able to GO?
My bike has a braking distance from100kph/60mph of about 50ft. That
ddove84994
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shannon: it's a decent argument, but you misunderstood my use of "street race," (a race on a road course) and you are exaggerating my 'e-brake' statement. i have never come close to letting someone hit me with the e-brake thing. i have only ever done it once hard enough that the person noticed. moreover i watch behind me as intently as i do in front of me. i can tell you who's in the car behind me: ethnicity, gender, approximate age. and yes, you CAN see that through your glass. polarized lenses help, as well. btw we aren't allowed to tint front glass here in cali.
anyway, i don't want to quote everything you said because we're growing these threads like cancer.
here:
1) the faster you go, the less time you have to do something to avoid hitting that kid. period. if your bike is way more advantageous than a car, that's great; don't work to undo that advantage.
2) i am well aware of the fact that a car isn't all that safe, either. but exactly what you said: two dead riders, two not dead passengers.
3) i have a shitload of money in my race car; it's driving performance (road-holding and braking) is out of the league of cars you'll see on the road. it's not sportbike-caliber (not really possible to do with a car), but it's definitely somewhere in between car and sportbike.
given the choice of a person (or a dog for that matter) on the road or a car, i'll hit the car. everyone will have a better chance but me.
~ dan ~
anyway, i don't want to quote everything you said because we're growing these threads like cancer.
here:
1) the faster you go, the less time you have to do something to avoid hitting that kid. period. if your bike is way more advantageous than a car, that's great; don't work to undo that advantage.
2) i am well aware of the fact that a car isn't all that safe, either. but exactly what you said: two dead riders, two not dead passengers.
3) i have a shitload of money in my race car; it's driving performance (road-holding and braking) is out of the league of cars you'll see on the road. it's not sportbike-caliber (not really possible to do with a car), but it's definitely somewhere in between car and sportbike.
given the choice of a person (or a dog for that matter) on the road or a car, i'll hit the car. everyone will have a better chance but me.
~ dan ~