American Dad - "Stan's Food Restaurant" - Talkback [11/14]

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Broadcast Order: Season 6, Episode 4
Production Order: Season 5, Episode 16

Writer: Brian Boyle
Director: Josue Cervantes


A new episode airs tonight at 9:30 PM Eastern. It is also the 100th episode in broadcast order. Here is the synopsis:
 
I've been feeling the same way since '1600 candles.' Even tonight's resolution makes me wonder why Stan just doesn't turn Roger in back to Area 51.

And...Stan's restaurant was kinda cool...
 
He's about as much as Peter. Also it always fun to see him fail due to karma.

Also, I love how Steve just plain gives up on the girl of the week.
 
Yeah I liked the restaurant too.

A lot of MacFarlane's characters are pretty scuzzy. But most of them are likable in one way or another. Unfortunately there's nothing appealing about Roger. He's cruel, vile, egotistical, sociopathic, disturbing and just treats everyone around him like crap. What's to like about a character like this? Why would you want to keep watching him? The only TV character I can think of off the top of my head who comes close is Cartman, and at least he's a kid. Seeing a dirty little alien stomp all over Stan's dreams wasn't funny in the slightest. It's just cruel.

Don, there's a difference between Roger and Peter. Peter is an oversized, retarded (literally) man-child who just does things on impulse because he's an idiot. Roger is a calculating, nasty little jerk who doesn't care at all about anyone else around him. He'll do whatever he wants to further his own interests. Peter at least usually learns lessons and apologies. Deep down he does love his family. Roger probably wouldn't care if all the Smiths died as long as he gets what he wants.
 
I won't disagree about Roger being horrible (most of the time), but there are times when he can show sympathy like trying to continue a relationship with Judy in The One That Got Away and let's not forget he did save Klaus from comitting suicide (on his birthday, no less!) and treated him with a trip to Europe in Red October Sky. So, he's not totally unlikeable. I like Roger because I like seeing him go on his escapades and what consequences fall on him (Also, his insanity is pretty hilarious). I'll admit burning down Stan's Restaurant in tonight's episode was pretty mean. Anyways, I don't think Roger's mean-spiritedness is the main reason why the show is underappreciated. I think it's because some people still see it as a FG clone and its brand of humor doesn't clock with them.

I thought Stan's dream restaurant was pretty awesome. Some of the foods listed in his menu were a little odd, nevertheless I would've wanted to eat at his place. Near the end, I knew Roger wouldn't take losing well so I expected the establishment to blow up and on opening day.:sweat:

I didn't really like the Steve subplot that much. It was funny when he gave up on the girl, though.
 
Now, I'm not a fan of either two shows (and I hope no one takes this the wrong way because I don't mean this as an insult), but wasn't this kind of story used in a Family Guy episode?
 
Best show of the night. Stan's restaurant sounds like a heart attack and lawsuit waiting to happen, so I was surprised he lost it from a fire from Roger instead of being forced to close. Such a shame since he seemed very inspired and happy with it. We won't get to see reactions from Francine and the cooks either.

Steve's plot was another getting the girl plot, but the doll twist was just weird. Snot getting involved was a welcome shake-up and I love how unenthusiastic he was over this whole ordeal. Steve calling it quits at the end was a great change of pace too.
 
I'd eat at Stan's restaraunt.

Stan's flashbacks were hilarious, especially the reversed memory with the priest at the summer camp.
 
Wow, you've got it COMPLETELY backwards. Peter's meanness is not only tolerated, it celebrated on Family Guy. He's a completely unsympathetic character. He doesn't love his kids. And the only times he ever gets what's coming to him is (sometimes) when he's mean to one of the "cool" characters. When he's mean to one of the "uncool" characters (Meg, Chris, Mort, basically anyone who's not good looking except Peter), more often than not the other cool characters (Lois, Brian, Quagmire, etc) laugh it up with him, and the audience is just left feeling bad for the victim. Half the time it's feels like the writers think they're the cool kids in high school and they have to make fun of all the uncool kids.

Roger is FAR more sympathetic than Peter. Even if he's completely selfish and calculating, they make it a point to show him as a sympathetic character and they don't make him out to be one of the "cool kids". You see the negative effects of his behavior (his lifestyle, alcoholism, addictions, self-hating rants, etc), and that makes it far easier to laugh at him when he doesn't learn. Furthermore, he doesn't have the other characters of the show edging him on and laughing it up with him when he does something mean or selfish. Unlike Peter, you're not supposed to laugh with him against his victims, you're supposed to laugh at him for being so calculating over what's usually very petty issues.

And there's no way you'll convince me that Roger is the reason AD isn't popular. By that same logic, Bender was the reason Futurama wasn't popular when it was first run on Fox. They're basically the same character (mean, calculating, never learn, but ultimately sympathetic). In fact, the reason AD isn't popular is probably the same reason Futurama wasn't initially popular - casual viewers see it as a lesser spin-off of their more well-known predecessors (even though they're not truly spin-offs). They look the same on the surface so people don't feel compelled to watch it (this also isn't helped by the fact that neither had a favorable timeslot - Futurama at 7:30 usually and AD after Family Guy at the end of Fox's primetime, people could watch the Simpsons and Family Guy and avoid both of them easily). My hope is that, now that American Dad is seeing a lot more syndication recently, more casual fans will start to realize how good it actually is (like what happened with Futurama, only after it was cancelled).

I guess I should say something about the episode so it's not a total thread disruption. I thought the Stan/Roger story was great, Stan's revised memory of his Christian camp was especially funny. Steve's B-plot felt very forced, but still pretty funny. And once again Haley is nowhere in sight (boo).
 
I love how American Dad can do really gruesome and dark stuff (Stan's childhood and the whole explosions) and still be funny. It's nice to see Stan living out a dream.

As for Steve, poor guy, he even mentioned wanting Hayden Panettiere in a previous episode and he blew his chance. It's probably for the best, though, she was psychotic.



Plus the fact that Roger actually gets sick when he's nice and helps people out. He's biologically programmed to act the way he does.
 
Fairly decent episode. It was sad to see how bad Stan's childhood was. I kind of knew right away that Roger would take over Stan's dream. Stan opening a restaurant next door was predictable. I couldn't believe Roger blew up Stan's restaurant along with his since he was the only one doing badly. This episode shows how big a jerk Roger can be when something doesn't go his way.

The subplot with Steve was kind of weird.
 
How come cartoon boys can pretend a doll had an abortion and no one says a word, but if a real live cartoon woman gets a real abortion the episode gets banned?

Now excuse me while I go off to figure if the words I type have any meaning.
 
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