America is a police state

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Governors can, however, execute sentence commutations or pardons to bring old convictiosn up to date with current laws.

And if marijuana laws were repealed, rather than simply passing a new law legalizing it, wouldn't convictions under those laws go away?
 
I'm not missing anything. I have no interest in the semantic discussion. I think the government has no authority to pass laws regulating drug use, and that's as far as my interest in the topic goes.
 
Do you think the high levels of abuse for crack users would decline though or would we have some crack epidemic?
 
You're not getting incarcerated most places in this country if you get caught with a gram of weed on you.

Perhaps we have different definitions of "recreational"
 
Correct - which eliminates the risks dealers and users take ... the risk of being caught/jailed


Dude, crack is legal, I don't have to hide my shit when the cops come by, I can shoot up right in front of them
 
really? it seems like i've read quite a bit about people being put in jail because they've got just a tad over the "limit" or because they've been caught several times with it and the charges just pile on
 
That's a fine opinion for you to have. It doesn't add anything to the discussion we're having regarding the net effects of various types of nationwide drug policies.

If you have something to add besides "all drugs should be legal", by all means, share it.

edit: alright then, have a nice day
 
USERS no longer have risk of being jailed. DEALERS still face the same risk. Distribution would still be totally illegal. Only usage would be decriminalized.

However, the street price would go down, cutting into the risk premium dealers need. It's not that complicated.
 
So that means you're now going to give me a breakdown of our prison population by convicted offense, with offenses cross-referenced (so that you can't pretend somebody imprisoned for weed AND armed robbery isn't just an innocent stoner), right?
 
Thanks.

So in theory there could be higher incarceration rates among "developing nations?"
 
I love that despite crime going down our prison population is rising dramatically

The war on drugs + privatization of the prison system = more & longer prison sentences.

Private companies are the Corrections Corporation of America, the GEO Group, Cornell Companies, and Community Education Centers. Huge growth sector in our economy. At least one of these companies is publicly traded.

I would love to get into that business. It's real-estate in which you provide the lowest quality of living legally allowed (sometimes worse) and the rent is paid by the US taxpayer so to speak. You can also use your influence politically to get more tenants and increase their length of stay. You also have some control over their "reform" or recidivism depending on how you look at it. It's a fucking goldmine!
 
If you built an enormous prison in the US out in the middle of nowhere, I think you could fill it up in 48 hours.
 
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