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Couldn't help but notice this as well. My nexus one actually out performed my n97 mini in areas of my work building, like holding a call in the elevator, that consistently failed on my Nokia.

Anecdotal evidence. Hard to keep controlled test. But a true story nonetheless.
 
N8 voice quality was pretty damn good out of the devices I've used (from RIM, to Apple, to Android/HTC/Samsung).

I can't say if the radio was any better. Same with the N97. I think they're so similar now-a-days its hard to tell... of course I saw the iPhone4 grip-of-death better so point for Nokia and the others for not wrapping their radios in metal... hehe.
 
As opposed to your completely uncorroborated and I'm sure highly esteemed opinion that you just pulled from your derriere? Please.

I posted my method for gauging the ratio of units sold. In fact, I'd guess that the number for the N8 is closer to 4.5 million but I figured it might be best to be conservative. That my number lines up with another independent assessment only lends credence.

You're like a Craigslist low-baller. On a planet of your own. Why not 100k or 100 or simply 1? Where did you get that number? Post your method or go troll elsewhere.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: right back at you.
 
My take on the symbian 3 numbers is this. Symbian still sells a lot of units. But in western Europe, the US, markets where there is more high end competition, how do the symbian 3 sales compare?

What is the break down for specifically the UK, iOS vs android vs symbian 3? This is where I an skeptical of symbian 3's "solid sales" numbers.

Nokia has such a global reach, more than most other manufacturers, that if they only sell 250k units in each market, the cumulative effect looks like its selling well. But is it really? I'm curious about this.

Anyone know of regional market share numbers?
 
Figures I got was:

31 million last quarter of 2010

28 million was Nokia. Which means the balance are non Nokia Symbian phones made in Japan for the telecoms there. Except the Japanese telecom industry never formally classifies Symbian powered keitais as smartphones.

Estimated 5 million are Symbian^3,

Estimated for Nokia N8 is about 3.5 million.

I guess the balance is about 1.5 million for the C7 and C6-01.

Also means 23 million are S60 devices, which are pretty cheap these days. Like the C6, C5, E3, E5, 5230. The 5230 is probably the best selling smartphone model Nokia has right now. Its the only Nokia smartphone listed on Asia top selling list. Not bad considering all the others mentions are featurephones.

I would say, without contract cost, only the N8 is the over $500 device here.

On the other hand, the 16.2 million iPhones sold in that quarter are over $500 valued devices.

If you attach wholesale costs x unit, in terms of dollar volume, Apple takes the cake.

Android is too complex due to the models and there is no reliable breakdown. But out of the 33 million sold, the Galaxy S as a whole was the biggest seller. In the US, the Droid X takes the cake followed by the EVO and the Droid 2. HTC Desire is the top seller for HTC. It shows that Android remains primarily a top end seller. The biggest seller among the low and mid ends is the LG Optimus One.

When it comes to Blackberry, which moved 14 million units the last quarter, the Curve is the biggest seller always, followed by the Pearl. Again, both low to mid end phones.
 
There isn't really a reason to try to engage in intelligent conversation with FFR, his only purpose in posting in this forum is to rile up nokia fans and he's succeeding with you inept :p
 
http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/20299-100-9m-smartphones-sold-in
"Market performance of smartphone vendors
During the quarter, Nokia shipped 28.3m smartphones, up 36.1pc on last year, giving it a total 28.3pc share of the global market. Nokia noted the positive progress of its new Symbian3 smartphones during 4Q10: 5m units combined from the N8, C7 and C601 worldwide."



who's talking out of thier derri?re :lol:



So your basing your guess on reviews from the ovi store:lol::lol::lol:.
Sorry, but the majority of symbian users use their "smartphones" as dumb/feature phones. They do not download apps. Let alone write reviews for them



that breakdown, and "numerous analysts" are actually one analyst called Inderes Oy Who works for a finnish research company and posted its website.

His evidence:
chip makers- Because the n8 does not share its processor or ram with any other nokia smartphone:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
-N8 search volumes on Internet search engines :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
-media attention to the phone:lol::lol::lol:

oh and nokia may have delivered 4 million n8.
if nokia sold 4 million or hell even 2 million n8 nokia would have released it in on its quarterly earnings to appease investors. But they didn't did they, they killed symbian two weeks later


http://www.businessweek.com/news/20...ed-4-million-n8-smartphones-inderes-says.html

The n8 was/is a failure:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
and so is Symbian^3:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
wrong. they now have a leader who skates to where the puck is going to, not where it is. msft is dead serious about mobile and will commit massive resources to this ecosystem, and will do so efficiently. the old plan of nokia failed. and that's the bottom line. Intel is nothing in mobile. they don't have any say so whatsoever, with no parts on any phones. Intel put out a press release today saying they still backed meego and everybody yawned.
 
obviously s3 numbers were not good enough to sway Elop. if they showed any promise at all he would not have dumped the platform. he said it was years behind the competiton. Your own CEO saying your main product is years behind? that takes some cajones.
 
They should have made such nice phone long ago, instead of releasing those unattractive bricks..
Were their designers sleeping for couple of years and awake only yesterday?...
 
Dude, we already fell for Nokia's promises and they have outright abandoned their roadmap and platforms.

We're supposed to believe MS will follow through? Dead serious on what? Like they were on the Kin? On WinMo 6.5, 6.1, 6, 5?

Or maybe like they were Dead Serious on Vail/DE, on Longhorn, on revamping the file system on their Desktop OSes.

I use a few of MS's Desktop and Enterprise products, but take it from someone that knows. MS is slow to act and they only act when they can sucker people to make huge investments into their infrastructure with MS's current products so they'll be tied in for years.

Nokia and Microsoft spindoctors are working overtime, don't buy into their BS.

MS will not make any serious investments, they plan on building this transition on the backs of the current Nokia fans while giving them scraps. Read between the lines coming out of their official press releases and blogs (Qt blog... so sad, go go marketing guy).

Don't support the regime, support regime change.
 
fine I will fall for the bs of nokia + microsoft and you can fall for the bs that Intel + meego is going to be a factor in mobile devices. please start a thread when they actually deliver their first phone.
 
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