In late 2004 I was in rehab w/a Percocet addict and her treatment was the same as for me. I was seriously addicted to Norcos 10/325, and taking 15-20 at a time was nothing. But the w/drawls made me attempt suicide. Twice. It was here on healtrabroadoarRAB that I saw a chat about Suboxone. I called rehab places until I found one that used it. It saved my life. Literally. It's an orange pill you melt under your tongue, and in 5-10 minutes, it stops the withdrawls, kills the cravings, and has a built in sabotage medicine so you don't get tempted. My Dr. told me about this heroin addict new to Suboxone, and he blew $200 on heroin for nothing...the naloxone nullifies the effects of opiates. It's pretty much impossible to OD on it...taking more won't make any difference (I've tried, of course). I've been on maintenance now for 5 years, and though I don't need 8 mg anymore, just that tiny 2mg pill twice a day is my safety net. I don't know why any rehab facility just lets ppl just lay there writhing and suffering horribly when there's a 21st century drug that is a God-send. To me that's torture. It doesn't teach a lesson, it makes addicts think they can never overcome it. Methadone is old school, doesn't address the true cause, and can be abused. I saw on the Dr.'s TV show yesterday a teenage boy going through w/d's and thought: "This is cruel and unusual punishment". It takes our brains about a year to return to normal levels, and of course he didn't make it. It's so obvious it's not in our willpower to resist the urges. Without Suboxone, there was nothing I wouldn't have done and no low I wouldn't have stooped to to get my drug of choice. Subutex just went generic for those w/o insurance, and though it's pricey, it's way cheaper than getting high. Or paying bail. Or probation. Any opiate addict: Suboxone is THE way to go. No w/d's, no cravings, no crashing, and mostly, a lifeline of hope b/c when you're fighting addiction, all the scare tactics, guilt trips, tears, and best intentions and ultimatums won't work. Life feels like it's not worth living. You feel helpless and worthless. Having them ask you to "tough out" the withdrawls and then voila, you're cured is b.s. Your brain chemicals need time to recover from all the time you artifically stimulated it...around a year or two. Take it from a former opiate addict...Suboxone is the cure. I think all rehabs should be required to use it. Good luck, and I surely hope you find a Dr. (you don't have to go to rehab to get it, just a certified Dr....a private office visit once a month). I'm sure they have a website and a list of participating Dr's. You can quit and not suffer at all. That's the miracle that's Suboxone. :angel: