Accepting that John Lennon was a douchebag is much like accepting death

i never got the whole Joplin thing either
other than that she died young from drugs, hung around the in crowd, and (errrr) Ahem! sang at/played their venues

though i know i'll get flamed
i'll say it

i thought she sucked
 
I completely disagree
Violent death mythologises almost any celebrity, and their profiles were probably at a similar height.
and really both those songs are trite rubbish.
 
Nah man, I agree, fuck Janis Joplin. "Peice of my Heart" was the only good thing she ever did, everything else blew.


Id like to make the argument that artists' early deaths are excellent reasons for those who don't understand the hype around them to make excuses of why they are so popular.

Paul McCartney's solo work is fruitless, I hate it all. John Lennon, however, has more than an albums worth of good music. Take:

Instant Karma
Mother
Imagine

For starters. Name one Paul McCartney solo song that's better than those. Plus, without Lennon, I feel like the Beatles would have been somewhat of a cheesy 60's pop band rather than what they are remerabered for these days.

That said, I still accept he's a douchebag, I just dig his tunes:)
 
Yeah, if John wasn't murdered people would have just talked about "that Lennon prick" and not "that Lennon genius." I still think he was the most interesting meraber, if not the most creative. Guess I'm a sap too.
 
i've had to give up trying to 'know' these banRAB/artists because it seems like every time they talk about anything
i end up disagreeing with them and/or not really liking them as people

the two biggies that got ruined for me were Isaac Asimov and Grace Slick
but there have been plenty of others

i guess that makes me an anti-fan
someone who DOESN'T want to know every little thing about them

w/e
 
Mother is often forgotten...but it is really classic. I like it 100 billion times more than give piece a chance.

But yeah, Lennon is a huge douche...but his mom and best friend died, and he had an overall ****ed up childhood cut him a little slack.
 
with the 'wawa' indian backing vocals. hellz yeah. but even there he was sticking it to the Maharishi. Which frankly he probably deserved
 
but really who cares? It really does not matter if you're musical hero is a douchebag, they still make great tunes.
A friend of mine asked nick cave for an autograph, Nick told him to get ****ed, doesnt mean his music is suddenly crap
 
so is lance armstrong, tiger wooRAB, and most anyone else who is one of the best at what they do. i dont mean to say you cant be great at what you do and still be a good person; its just kinda hard not to be a son of a bitch when everyone wants to be you.
 
You know?

THAT's what freaks me out about these 'stars' who think their opinion is better or more knowledgeable than the "average joe's"

but these flipping "average joe's" are just

man, how was that put?

about the nuggets dropping out of the something-or-others butt cheeks? :cool:
 
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