Accepting that John Lennon was a douchebag is much like accepting death

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LOL, I got a real kick out of this article. What do yuo guys think?


didntread.com/music/accepting-that-john-lennon-was-a-douchebag-is-much-like-the-five-stages-of-death.html
 
It's a pretty funny article but I've never met a Lennon fan (an actual Lennon fan, not someone who just runs around going GIVE PEACE A CHANCE) who isn't aware he was a douchebag.
 
That article was interesting. I'm not that familiar with the history of the Beatles, so I can not get involved in the debate. However I have noticed "younger" people wearing John Lennon Imagine t-shirts. I have never once seen any Paul t-shirts. I think that has alot to do with him not being dead and extremely mainstream.
 
Solid solo career? Both were for the most part god-awful (their early 70's output was fine) but John did his ****ty rock n' roll covers album and some other crap i'd like to try and forget; Macca had obscene success at the time with Wings. Wings were ****, but at least Paul made Ram and Band on the Run, which alone is enough to par John's entire output. IMO.
 
yeah there's no arguing with the iconic thing. he one dead muthafudga. and he was the most interesting aswell, at least in the immediately post-/Beatles years. Macca - the housewives' choice
 
i oloed.

But I knew this a LONG time ago. He bitched consistently while he was with the Beatles that he could never get enough creative control. And WHAT did he write about in his solo career? ABOUT BEING IN THE BEATLES AND NOT GETTING ENOUGH CREATIVE FUCKING CONTROL.
 
It's a lot like Allen Ginsberg and most of the Beat generation...people heap accolades on those guys for being visionary geniuses and the like, and at the end of the day all most of them were, were drug-addicted wannabes with externally-fed delusions of grandeur. I don't mind John Lennon, but nobody is clean, ever -- none of your heroes are what you think they are.
 
Good point. I am a Lennon fan... I wouldn't use "douchebag", but I'd definitely agree to the fact that he was naive & almost annoyingly indignant. Or thought he was. I love his "solo" (I put it in quotes because right now I'm listening to Well Well Well from the Plastic Ono Band and I dig it) stuff much more than his Beatles stuff (though I'm also a Beatles fan). Some beautiful songs came from naivety (sp?) and dreams, though. I'll be cliche and say Imagine. And War is Over If You Want It is my favorite Christmas song.
 
Yeah, both John and Paul were douchebags, but John was by far the biggest. At least Paul didn't abandon his son at the age of five and ignored him for the next 12 years. The only reason Paul gets so much more crap is because everyone starts to admire a person as soon as they're murdered. Just look at JFK.
 
Replace solid with more iconic. If Paul had written lines like imagine there's no heaven, give peace a chance and woman is the nigger of the world everyone would probably be idolizing a different Beatle. It really has nothing to do with who got murdered, it attributed to John's icon status sure but it didn't create it. If Paul had been shot he wouldn't be placed on the same pedestal as John because he just didn't have the same career post-beatles.
 
seriously people love it when they kick the bucket early. not to say janis joplin wasnt great, but she had what 2 albums? only pearl was even critically acclaimed.
 
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