a very long question, with every detail... please read all of it, sorry

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about the weird wording? I fell in love with this girl at the beginning of 7th grade, and yes it was and is true love so don't give me that crap. I gave her a note with all my feelings, almost the whole front and back, but i was nicely turned down. Since then we have become great friends, she is one of my best friend now. i just found out a month or two ago that she liked me in 8th grade. i just got out of 9th grade. She started liking me a year after i started liking her. i never lost any feelings for her. But my 9th grade year was kinda rough on me. she was my friend now so when she told me that she liked my best friend (whom she hated back in 7th and 8th grade), well at first i thot she was insane, but i helped out. i even helped keep them together because they were both such good friends. i just kept in all that pain of seeing her with him instead of me. Now after she told me that she had liked me in 8th grade, i nearly snapped. my best friend that shes dating doesnt know this, but ive been jealous of him pretty much for ever. but its always been small stuff that didnt matter, so i shrugged it off. and now i know that i failed at getting this girl's love and he succeeded. remember now they hated each other before this year started. well now its the summer, and my friend is visiting china, leaving her here...
what im asking basically, is whether i would be wrong or right trying to change this, to put in perspective, their one year anniversary is going to be october of this year

my best friend knows that i loved this girl so much, i really would do anything to get her...but im still being a good friend to him. do u think i should? i mean, he hardly showed any kind of acknowledgment that i still loved her. sure he was decent enough to let her ask me if i would have any problems with it...did he ask? no

i have told this girl how i am so jealous of my best friend, but she would tell me stuff like "i wont leave him, i love him" im not asking her to leave him when i talk to her about it...i just want them to act a bit more like good friends to me.

am i being selfish?
when i found out that this girl liked me, it could have been one of the happiest days of my life, only like 3 girls ever liked me including her...she was the only one that i liked

my guy friend? there are like 7 different girls that like him in our school, who knows how many outside of it, and he had a smokin hot gf back in ohio before he moved here in 7th grade
hes extremely smart, the most arrogant guy ever, and most ppl wouldnt say hes a good bf
im pretty smart too, hes just a lvl above me, im fairly humble most of the time, many girls have told me that i am one of the nicest guy in like pretty much existance
does it seem right that shes with him and not me?


i have tried to move on and just find another girl, what happened was that the nxt best girl i liked was with someone, so i waited cause i knew he would break her heart, but she wouldnt listen to my warnings
so after he broke up with her, i would talk to her every night, trying to help her feel better...what happens is that another friend of mine, came out of nowhere and acted kinda mean about the jerk that dumped her(he deserved it for what he did, but he was a generally nice guy so i didnt bash him) and she ended up dating this new guy.

i even asked both of these girls to find me "the right girl" which they both said they werent for me. now there is no way i could find a better girl than either of these two. but i was going to try.
they both said, "sorry, there no one good enough for u"
theres no way that i am so great that two amazing girls turn me down for some other guys, and yet they cant find any girl for me...


alot of things are brought up in this, like being jealous of ur best friend, judging whether or not who is right, etc.

if ur still reading, please dont reply if ur just bored, this is seriously what is goin on in my life and i really need help.
i really just cant accept that my best friend would be going out with the girl that i love, i normally change that which i cannot accept...but this time will be breaking some relation, no matter what

ever heard of "nice guy finishes last"? well i guess its true...if he finishes

so, if u dont answer any other question in this rant(stated or not) then please answer this:
Do you think that i should try to get this girl to leave my so-called best friend and be mine?

please please please reply with the best advice that u can come up with...i really really need it
 
I think you should really consider if you're willing to lose your best friend, because I doubt he'd be happy with you. If you truly like this girl, then tell her, tell her how amazing you think she is, and open up to her. If she has any sense she'll see you for who you really are , and dump the jerk.
 
I'll be short.

If this is as serious as you say.

Then you're stupid for letting it go.

I'd rather gain "the girl of my dreams" and lose a best friend.

because if the girl of your dreams ISN'T your best friend, then something is wrong.

now don't try and do anything stupid.
Talk to her about it.
What's the worst that could happen?
You find out instead of wondering your whole life?

If this is really that serious to you, yes, it will follow you your whole life.

I've had stuff happen that people told me was nothing, and it still leaves me wondering.

So my advice.
You're better finding out - the right way - no stupid stunts or anything.

Talk to her.

Regardless of your best friend. Wife > Best friend
because Wife = best friend.

Hope things go well.
 
wow this took forever to read but this kinda thing takes a little time and a lot of careful planning
if u tell her to leave u will always just be that guy who tried to run her life
anyway...if u really want them to break up u have to plant a seed of annoyance in them...like if hes ur friend and she brings him up and like hes awesome....u can be like yeah he is pretty cool but it annoys me sometimes the way he treats girls like theyre objects or something like that...so she will realize that she is being treated like an object and break up with him

then make ur move
 
It's quite an interesting but sad story. I think you should stick to your friend no matter what! What I mean to tell you is that girls come and go, friends don't. According to you, he's your BEST friend. So why lose someone so intimate for a mere girl who's attracted you a bit more than the rest? I'm not criticizing your love. I know it's true. But I still want you to be the "nicest guy in existence." So, don't leave your friend for the girl. I'm sure that a guy like you will get a really good girl who will love you truly.
 
I have 7 words for you, 'All is fair in love and war." If you care this much about this girl than you need to do something about it. From what I read this is kinda TRUE LOVE for you. And it seems like your so called "Best Friend" isn't such a best friend. He clearly knows your truely in love with this girl and it doesn't seem fair that he took her from you and i know that sounds like a 3rd grade answer, but that's kinda what he did right? He stole her from you. So my advice would be to try and show this girl how much you care about her. Cause any guy that cares about a girl this much deserves the girl they want. But that's my opinion. And maybe this best friend shouldn't be your best friend anymore. A best friend wouldn't take their best friends crush. Sorry for writing so much.

Good Luck I Hope You Get Her!
 
this is way too long, and by reading a bit you should just back away because what if he did that to you you'll be heartbroken
 
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