A disclaimer

[Mohanad]

.............pls count the iq that's in my pants.. hey mommy how much how much do I have? :shifty:

That is indeed a putdown! Wow, I'm trembling. So they hit you with the stupid stick not once but twice ?

Then the reverse is surely true, if you see all sites as the same, why did you trade for them, or did they once have a value to you but no longer ?
I don't mean this question with any sort of malice truly, it just seems to me that your position now, and your former position as a trader are diametrically opposed ?

........Firstly, who said my position of a trader was former or current?

You have several times, in your own posts.

Having a "value" as you put it is merely a measure of how difficult it is to enter a certain tracker

This is not my value system, this is the value system placed on trackers by those who wish to enter them based on their 'rarity'.

Lots of people break tracker rules everyday here, who am I to say what is right and wrong, all Im saying is that we do it equally.

So if I understand you correctly we should go for the lowest common denominator, i.e. not respect any tracker wishes at all, the url, internal screens, and all other relevant information should be public ? Doesn't really make them much of a private tracker then does it? Or should every tracker get rid of this silly invite system and just open registrations already ?

 

[xMeTAlxChICkx]

Personally I think that new type of idea they were working on implementing over a year ago was a step in the right direction.
Forget what it was called.
It has the sites acronyms, users, pretimes etc.. all listed.
(Although most of the info was incorrect for alot of sites.)
It was a good idea. Maybe they could take it a step farther and maybe list the type of files the sites get too.
For instance you see X site has good pretimes but you only download HD files. You wouldn't exactly go looking for a waffles account whatever their lvl is because its music.
(Would make alot more sense listing by content and not by what the invites are worth to traders.)

Isn't it this what you are referring to?

 

[danikamae beroñas]

I think its called common courtesy. If a site asks for anonymity why not give it to them. What is the point of posting a review or the full name of a site that most members here are not going to get into anyway.

You've been around long enough that you should have realised by now that tracker staff don't want their sites to be "rare"....and not all sites are the same. Most of what you would call "rare" sites have a lot less members than those who don't care about publicity. There is a different atmosphere on these sites and they want it to stay that way.

Seems like you are looking at it from a traders perspective not a members perspective.

Common courtesy I have no problem with, I just have a problem with courtesy for some and not for others.

Secondly, I used "rare", but I did use other descriptors so please read my whole post, it would be appreciated. My point, in case you missed it is the same as above, why are some sites special and some not?

My post was just a simple comment on equality, if you need to look deeper into it, then so be it.

Yeah what the hell was that?

I think they got fed up with the way they would post something and like a page later he would post the exact same thing.

Phaneuf does that shit all the time, its just gonna make matters worse (for that particular instance)

 

[DocBC28]

that said, i didn't use 'ratiocinate' and 'cavil' to show off, i just couldn't find better words to express my though - both words have the pejorative connotation i was looking for.

 

[lacute7ness]

Where WTAW thread is it? :frusty:

Seek & ye shall find.......

seriously it's a sticky thread at the top of the trade section.

 

[adabsum]

........Firstly, who said my position of a trader was former or current?

You have several times, in your own posts.

I think you misunderstood my question. I dont think I have ever said that I was done with trading, if I did the please excuse me. But my point was is that I never mentioned either way

Having a "value" as you put it is merely a measure of how difficult it is to enter a certain tracker

This is not my value system, this is the value system placed on trackers by those who wish to enter them based on their 'rarity'.

Mine either, just the one in wtaw.. I dont give a shit about that either

Lots of people break tracker rules everyday here, who am I to say what is right and wrong, all Im saying is that we do it equally.

So if I understand you correctly we should go for the lowest common denominator, i.e. not respect any tracker wishes at all, the url, internal screens, and all other relevant information should be public ? Doesn't really make them much of a private tracker then does it? Or should every tracker get rid of this silly invite system and just open registrations already ?

No..... I said equality. Equal, good or bad.. all or nothing, everyone the same, no one special. Get the point?

 

[esther m]

Without having read all the comments i'd like to make an input without getting into the above crossfire;

I do agree at some points with you IdolEyes. Although, you still have to put in consideration that these trackers, even though they are 'private' aren't as private as some of them would like to be.

With the enourmous interest from people who don't know anything about trackers, what they do or provide or even what they stand for - and then hear from somewhere that tracker A is much better than tracker B some sort of curiosity comes up.

And also there are som who's been using e.g. Tracker B for three years, and now that person realises that Tracker B isn't sufficient for his needs, where will he go to be provided with the information he needs?

From my point of view 'everyone' is needed to create a good tracker, but of course there's always some rotten eggs....

 

[**Promisy**]

Like I said personal ethos.If someone politely requests that I don't specifically do something and it doesn't hurt anyone not to do it then personally I would think myself a total jerk if I didn't comply .

Perhaps policies regarding the posting of reviews are out of our control, but I believe things like that are what help fuel view counts . And if that's the case, there's not much we can do about it unfortunately.

 

[sakuragirl29592]

The whole "I'm a fucking badass for posting images against tracker wishes behind a fake name, my e-peen is 20 feet long" mentality is the real problem. Really, what's the point of exposing them if they'd rather be left alone? So it can be added to WTAW for more traders to slobber over?

How would it increase your "e-peen" if it's under a fake nick? If I were to post a review, it would be an exposing one for a site with staff who are self righteous ego ridden fucks. But luckily other people will post reviews for those sites, and I can be lazy about it and do nothing.

 

[Marna O]

But then people would realize that the best trackers are actually places like Torrents.ru and the traders would go out of business

 

[fergilious]

I agree. Seriously if you get banned from a site that wishes to remain secret, do us all a favour and take it like a man, don't respond in such a childish way. That simply validates their idea to ban you in the first place.

this.

 

[hotdog]

My reaction to this has always been: what makes some sites so special? I mean, why do some sites need to be referred to with asterisks and some sites can be talked about openly. Also, the same goes for screen shots and reviews.

Please no one say tracker rules, every site I belong to has a clause somewhere in their rules to not openly discuss the site.. but people only respect the wishes of some of those sites.. I don't care how "rare" your tracker is or if you think that your tracker is the shit or you think you are special, all sites are the same and should be treated as such.

 

[Randall P]

http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-a-disclaimer-post3382718/postcount12

It would save me a lot of time if people actually read my posts *properly* before commenting.

I just SAID myself that FST won't change, lol...I left it open to ANY sort of action that you could take (to put your own philosophies into practice), and what I was more meaning was something like leaving staff, actually. (what else can you do, in terms of taking action [if you DO want to take action)?)

Discussion is nice, even though, er, it's been done to death (and back)...but it's nice to see your view and your concerns. But I wonder if you'll end up leaving staff like Detale...

it's sad how people spend their time ratiocinating/caviling about such insignificant ethical questions like we were talking about a vital matter.
i know this is the kind of attitude a certain fringe of the bt users love to adopt (some veterans torrenters/members of 'cool' private forums) but still, it still get on my nerves.

 

[t-top IROC-Z]

Alright alright chill out no need to get personal.

It was a joke I thought that was obvious.
If I was really upset I wouldn't use the words donkey wiener I'd use something like ratiocinating or caviling as in " Ewwwyourface there is no point in trying to ratiocinate with you or cavil about your stupidity so I will instead put it succinctly . Idiot .

 

[Due♥12/09]

My reaction to this has always been: what makes some sites so special? I mean, why do some sites need to be referred to with asterisks and some sites can be talked about openly. Also, the same goes for screen shots and reviews.

Please no one say tracker rules, every site I belong to has a clause somewhere in their rules to not openly discuss the site.. but people only respect the wishes of some of those sites.. I don't care how "rare" your tracker is or if you think that your tracker is the shit or you think you are special, all sites are the same and should be treated as such.

Then the reverse is surely true, if you see all sites as the same, why did you trade for them, or did they once have a value to you but no longer ?
I don't mean this question with any sort of malice truly, it just seems to me that your position now, and your former position as a trader are diametrically opposed ?

 

[Papa Roach]

FST: The place where trackers rules are ignored.

Nothing wrong with that; but there is nothing right about it; just different.

 

[TheOneAndOnly]

Use common sense and weigh opportunity costs before making a review

I think you basically meant this, but wrote it out with more words?

 

[mrmatthew]

Do you really feel it is necessary to stoop down to nitpicking on other peoples grammar in order to counteract their arguments? Is that what people on mature and exclusive forums do?

Rart, that isn't grammar, those are made up words, I tried to say it as pleasantly as humanly possible, and in no way did I use it to couneract his argument ? And where did the mature and exclusive forums come from ? Is that you showing your own prejudices ?
Simply put, made up words detract from the overall statement.

 

[Tyler M]

Maybe true in some ways but not by all members! It is a forum with a lot of members, options.

FST: The place where trackers rules are ignored.

 

[Squee]

OK you win idol, that made my head hurt try to decipher your rather convoluted sentence structure. You do know that your colon is going to leap up and strangle you as a mercy to mankind one day don't you ? :blink: