A disclaimer

shahab

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Like I said personal ethos.If someone politely requests that I don't specifically do something and it doesn't hurt anyone not to do it then personally I would think myself a total jerk if I didn't comply .

Maybe I'm not looking at the bigger picture, maybe I'm a naive idiot but that's how I chose to live my life or rather the minuscule the part of my life that I have any control over.
But... you could be an e-badass and an e-rebel by disobeying those simple requests! And at the end of the day, isn't that what we're all going for here? :whistling
 
Some places for whatever reason, right or wrong , don't want the exposure while others couldn't care less and some even welcome the publicity .
I mean if you were to ask someone very nicely not to do something( however innocuous) and they went ahead and did it anyway what would your opinion of them be?That's all I'm really getting at here, otherwise I couldn't agree more with you.

And I agree with you, just an alternate point.
 
@artemis keep taking your crazy pills, i'm sure your brain will receive some great ideas
I'll end here as this has nothing to do with Idol's thread. Srry for the off.
 
No that would be irrelevant, , purportless or useless
Redundant would be me saying that your post sucks goat wiener.

Alright alright chill out no need to get personal. But lets face it you know its true and everyone else knows it true that the vast majority of people come here looking for invites, and use the reviews and wtaw to see what they want.

The only thing that I see coming out of it is a lot of sour grapes and wasted time.Not something I think this ,or any , site needs to purposely propagate.

yet it remains i wonder why?
 
Although this isn't exactly the proper section for it apparently few members venture anywhere else so.......
I just want to publicly give a disclaimer that while I don't entirely see the harm I'm also not in total agreement with posting reviews of sites that would prefer not to be thus exposed.

I mean you can argue the fact that it allows people the opportunity to then decide what sites they might in the future like to be members of,but honestly what point is there to "target" something that collectively we have little or no chance to ever be a part of .
The only thing that I see coming out of it is a lot of sour grapes and wasted time.Not something I think this ,or any , site needs to purposely propagate.

Btw this isn't a reaction that anyone ,anywhere said to me . I ,as stated , just don't believe it is the healthiest thing for people to concern themselves with.

PS if anyone bt staff or otherwise think this is a attempt to" suck up" they may respectfully go fuck themselves.
 
It just boils down to this: "if you want something back from us (membership at our site) then respect our rules". Simple. Whether you agree or disagree with the wishes of a tracker is not really that significant, because many people have ALL sots of views on it (and seeming moral justifications for BOTH sides of the spectrum).

What I'm curoius at IdolEyes, is are you going to do anything about it or did you just open discussion about it?

Either way, I don't think anything at FST will change - everyone loves the hype too much, they love the juicy leaked info too much, the goss, the drama. I am sure FST will never change becuse everyone (sickeningly) loves it, whether openly or secretly.

FST is kinda like our collective guilty pleasure, it's the Soho of the bt world, and although I could do without it (and wish its tracker-unfriendly elements didn't exist), I won't hide the fact that I taste of its guilty pleasures just like everybody else does, while it IS here.

But to be staff here is completely different, IdolEyes787...
 
I think this is a positive message IdolEyes787....

As many people know trackers seem to be declining, many have gone down for various reasons.. It should be everyone's concern to take care of the existing trackers that remain. Places like this have long argued that people have they right to know all about each trackers and that if tracker staff didn't like it they could take a hike! and the site was deemed l33tist, and therefor the subject of vicious verbal and personal attacks..
the problem with that mentality these days is that the authorities use sites like these and other tracker review/info update sites against us.. and as a result trackers are disappearing.. but, there are other issues that can be involved also.. but, still ..
I think that if people want to continue using trackers, they may do better with at least not bringing attention to our community.. trackers come and go, TRUE... but, these days more are going than coming.. Think about that..
 
sites are secret to get members with hype staff dont want reviews cuz they dont want every1 to see how terrible their site is lmfao
these nerds want ppl to join their joke sites wit no clue and say some shit like we are a communtiy to trick ppl into staying
cn u can get all the shit there on pub torrents with faster speeds but look at the frontpg says welcome to the family lmfao whenever u hear some1 say family and ur not real family u kno ur being manipulated lol
skittles has old shit no1 wants but they try to addict u with activity points lol
revolt has only 2 torrents wat the fk lmfao
nobody would kno this shit without reviews u dick riders can keep talkin its common courtesy to not have a trade section too lol
 
I agree. Seriously if you get banned from a site that wishes to remain secret, do us all a favour and take it like a man, don't respond in such a childish way. That simply validates their idea to ban you in the first place.

All these reviews do is create a bunch of hype over trackers that don't deserve said hype or want nothing to do with it. Ditto with the WTAW thread. When you realize that a tracker is better based on its content and members, not on how hard it is to join, I think you'll find torrenting much more fulfilling ;)

Edit: With that said I feel that tracker staff should be making their own minimalistic reviews of their sites to at least disspell the hype and rumours, since I think one of the problem with the so called "high level trackers" is that people try to join them while knowing nothing about them. However, that should be their decision, not yours.
 
My view point of the subject:


I was simply pointing out that if you start censoring, where do you draw the line? If you start bending to trackers wishes where do you draw that line?
Yes, it was an absurd suggestion, and was meant to be taken as sarcasm, but I guess you missed that...

And for those who haven't noticed, the WTAW was "merged" with the WTO, leaving the infamous rarity level as just one more option users will consider when looking for a site to join.
Hopefully, if you are new to bt, you will probably go to specific trackers with high "contents" ranking. That's what the logic tells us.
In the mid long term it may produce results. If not, at least there was an attempt to skew members to choose which places they would consider useful to join based on those who do their best to excel in contents, and not rarity.
Having a WTO thread with 4 or 5 trackers there wouldn't probably help those stay off the radar either, would it? The more present there, the more diluted seeking for some sought after trackers will be. There's no point hiding stuff you can find with any google search. What's the point? Please the staff ? Save our asses? There's nothing secret enough on bt.

Leading to ca_aok's:
But then people would realize that the best trackers are actually places like Torrents.ru and the traders would go out of business :o
 
It has not occurred to me prior to this, but FST is more of an information source than it is any kind of club. With journalism comes a variety of lines- Do we care about and confirm our sources? Do we put our sponsors above our readers? Do we honor an individual's/group's right to privacy? Is there such a thing as privacy? Who has the right to know? Is there a right to know anything?

Many of these questions have been looming in the background for quite a while. With change comes a re-invigoration of these questions.

I don't believe anyone has a definitive answer. A quick scan of the evening "news" shows the direction of journalism as a whole. Controversy sells. We cast our votes for sensationalism and tabloid journalism every time we indulge in that kind of guilty pleasure; we support it every time we spread rumors and gossip ourselves.

I do think the makeup of the membership here will be a result of how the answers regarding privacy are presented in the form of site policies. Does the info-seeking community's desire to know outweigh the site creators' interest to remain private? Which choices will bring in and retain the most members on FST? Should FST give credibility to and/or a platform for scorned ex-members?

Personally, I favor an individual's rights to privacy and carry that over to site ownership. I am certain that no one would want their personal information spread around as freely as sites have their content and makeup handed out. In this community, there are substantial personal risks for staffing and/or owning a site. Should these costs be ignored for the benefit of quick info?

In terms of membership quality, I don't think quick and easy equates to better, more trustworthy, or long-lasting. I believe there is benefit in having members who stick around and enjoy being part of the greater community. For those who do, the answers become available. The alternative seems to be people who favor quick, easy answers, and consequently, easy access to the community. I do not think there is reason to believe these in-and-out members will show any kind of longevity on FST, either.

All this said, FST has rights to pursue its interests as well. If current decisions have a substantial effect on membership, either positive or negative, it will be up to the staff and owners to make further changes. FST is a center-point in the file-sharing community- that is one thing I do not see, or want to see, change any time soon!
 
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/p-a-disclaimer-post3382695/postcount7

You know it would make my life a whole lot happier easier if people bothered to actually read previous posts before commenting.

It have been brought up numerous times to the powers that be that FST doesn't exist in a vacuum but they have formed over time their own opinions that apparently aren't going to change .
I on the other hand believe that listening to other peoples concerns is not some juvenile sign of "weakness" but rather of a demonstration of your commonsense .
 
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