A Buffet idea

On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:23:53 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
(Steve Pope) wrote:



Yes, those types of ideas. However, I am going back to the small
homegrown type of buffet... I don't think a pizza oven would be
feasible in a place like that... ;) But the other idea is good...

I do think turnover in food would have to be fast...so that things
wouldn't get overcooked..or go to waste.. So small trays of
things...replenished often as needed.

The little buffet I went to, had trays that were too big. I think I
was the only customer in there. And while I was in there, they
brought out meatloaf too... I didn't try that... ;)



Christine.
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Christine Dabney wrote:




In Italy, or Campania anyway, it is typical in a restaurant
to have the contorni out in trays, replenished at intervals,
so that the customers can see them. Of course the customers
don't serve themselves, but they can still see it and choose.
Common choices are _zuccho al forno_, sauteed or braised greens,
mushrooms, or (my favorite) zucchini flavored with anchovy.
They seem to come out every 20 minutes and are anywhere between
warmish and room temperature. (Perhaps room temperature
vegatables don't have much truck with American diners...)


Steve
 
"Omelet" wrote in message
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Well I have only been to three. One had a lot of rice loaded sushi. The
dishes on the steam table were mainly rice and noodle things. There was
some kind of seafood...crab or lobster. I can't remember which. But I
don't eat that.

The other two had the standard rice and noodle dishes and lots of things in
sugary sauce.
 
Clueless AOL newbie Sheldon "Pussy" Katz blathered:


The average circus seal knows that the average "oriental" dish in a cheap
Chinese buffet is thickened with a helluva lot more corn starch the one
teaspoon.

You've never cooked Chinese food, and you've apparently never even been
allowed into a Chinese restaurant (probably because of your filthy hands and
personal stench).

You're stupid. Just face it; you'll be happier in the long run.

Bob
 
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:41:29 +0000 (UTC), [email protected]
(Steve Pope) wrote:


Yes, that would be the sort of idea I would like. I think it would
certainly elevate such a place.

Along that line, I have read of antipasto tables, in such places,
where the customers go and help themselves. I like the idea of
something like that... It is sort of buffetish....LOL.

Christine
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"Brooklyn1" wrote in message
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Well that could be. I don't know. As I said in some other posts, there
aren't many Jewish people around here. In Seattle, yes, but not out here.

I think I went to a breakfast buffet in Vegas and a dinner one once in Reno.
My husband hates buffets for two reasons. One, he eats waaaaay too much.
And two, he doesn't like serving himself.
 
On 2/18/2011 10:28 AM, Omelet wrote:

Chicken wings probably means that it's not mochiko chicken but may be
Korean Spicy Chicken Wings. I used to eat a lot of that years ago. My
favorite spot for this dish was Chicken Alice's in Honolulu. Here's an
article and a recipe. This obviously, is a dish that's been toned down
because the ones I'd eat had a hefty dose of chili pepper flakes and
probably enough Korean ground red pepper or paprika to impart a reddish
tint. My guess is that people on the mainland would go nuts for these
wings.

http://coreykawai.com/2009/09/21/the-chicken-alice-incident/
 
Christine Dabney wrote:

Hmmm. My first thought was about the salad bar. I LOVE salad
bars. Both with components and with prepared salads of various
sorts. Nicely seasoned, though, please.

Maybe mix and match desserts, including cut-up fruit. Your
mention of almond cake reminded me of that. I just threw together
a cherry crisp and am debating about serving it with almond ice
cream.

I think I'd better delete my thoughts about Indian dishes.

--
Jean B.
 
"Bryan" wrote in message
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On Feb 16, 2:13 am, Damaeus wrote:

I think she's pointing out that potatoes are a very low food cost
item, and questioning the wisdom of one who pays buffet prices for
something one could make much, much more cheaply at home.

But if you think about it... Most of what you get at a buffet could be made
more cheaply at home. The problem is all the cooking you would have to do
to get all that variety. And all the leftovers.
 
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 14:29:43 -0600, Omelet
wrote:


Nah... and besides you know the thickness of my skin. I'm just so
amazed at how in his rush to appear intelligent he always sabatages
himself by tripping over his own lying tongue... thickening slurry
carbs indeed... maybe that knucklehead guzzles La Choy chow mein by
the #10 can. LOL-LOL

I'm not into low carbing, is that a lot of carbs for the entire
serving:
http://www.lachoy.com/products/family-meals.jsp

I thicken oriental dishes all the time, Unless you're drinking the
sauce by the liter even double portions require very little thickened
sauce. A whole pint of eggdrop takes 1 rounded tsp of cornstarch, not
even close to the carbs in wonton soup. Most Chinese dishes contain
substantial rice, noodles, and batter fried... in comparison the wee
bit of thickening is inconsequentiol on the carbs scale.
 
projectile vomit chick wrote:



After more than a decade my favorite Sunday brunch place was sold. The
new owners had to muck up the experience really fast.

They walled the tables so you couldn't see the rest of the diners, a
very anti-social feel and it looked and felt like dining in a walled
maze. I sat down, thought better of it and left.

Then instead of a chafing dish of toasted bagels and English muffins,
they put two toasters out to toast your own. Who needs a roadblock like
standing in line to make toast? I came to eat not stand around! I took
this issue up with the owners. They were blissfully unconcerned, feeling
they were making great strides.

No more complimentary champagne!??

They also did away with the table cloths in favor of paper placemats,
while cheaper than doing the laundry, it certainly cheapened the brunch
experience.

Also gone were the low profile table candles. A small touch that really
warmed up the place.

Pancakes and omelets were fresh from the kitchen. I used to ask for
waffles, a "never gonna happen" request.

They then changed the name from the "Little Inn" to "Generations." The
final nail in the coffin!

They took one of Media's favorite restaurants and essentially ruined the
place.

I talked to my favorite waitress (from day one) about the changes. She
could only shrug in despair.

I haven't been back in over two years.

Sunday brunch is one big event. I wouldn't offer it every day.

When we first started brunching there (early 1990s) it was $12 a person.
Last I paid $17+tip. One thing is for sure, I always got more than my
money's worth. The original staff worked wonders to reserve my cozy
power table.

Reservations accepted (probably for large parties) but not required. No
mandatory gratuity.

Hours were 10 am to 2 pm. Bar opened after 11 am.

Attire, while not explicitly defined, was smart casual to Sunday best.

Friends and family loved the place. It never failed to impress, once
upon a time. :(

Brunch the way it used to be, so many years ago:
http://i55.tinypic.com/153lijc.jpg (zoom in a lot)
My typical brunch plates: http://i56.tinypic.com/33wryhv.jpg (forgive
the messed up titles) Not shown, poached salmon and asparagus and
finally, to declare victory, a plate full of kiwi fruit.

Andy
 
In news:rec.food.cooking, "Julie Bove" posted on
Wed, 16 Feb 2011 01:29:57 -0800 the following:


And I'm almost convinced that restaurants have access to higher-grade
potatoes than we can buy in the grocery store. While I've had bad
potatoes (old) at restaurants, when a baked potato from a steakhouse is
hot and fresh, it has a light fluffiness I have never been able to achieve
baking potatoes at home. I'm definitely not saying my attempts at home
were perfect, but for now, there are some things some restaurants are
better at than I am, like baking potatoes. I'm not saying mine are
horrible. They're certainly good, but they sometimes turn out as if they
had a lot of extra starch trapped in them that congealed and made the
innards dense and hard to fluff.

Damaeus
 
On Feb 16, 3:29?am, "Julie Bove" wrote:

But the food cost of a potato, vs that of the baked pollock that is
ubiquitous at AYCE buffets is not insignificant.
Same for fried chicken, some salad bar offerings (such as tomatoes),
sausage and bacon (during breakfast hours), and several other things.
I have eaten huge amounts at AYCE buffets, and for a certain period of
life I ate one meal a day, the rest of the day being devoted to
drinking coffee, beer and soda. I did that several weekdays, every
week. They should have had a refuse service poster of me behind the
register.

--Bryan
 
In news:rec.food.cooking, "Nunya Bidnits"
posted on Wed, 16 Feb 2011
11:24:31 -0600 the following:


That sound pretty good, given the potato shells. I don't think I'd want
potatoes in a corn tortilla shell.
 
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 05:26:19 -0800, "Bob Terwilliger"
arranged random neurons and said:


Frankly, the idea of a "Chinese buffet" makes me queasy. I love a top
flight Chinese dinner made with fresh ingredients, freshly made, but
the thought of steamer trays of Chinese food does not appeal.

Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd

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On 2011-02-16, Christine Dabney wrote:


OK. Here's my contribution, a dose of reality!

I worked at a private buffet diner. Cleaned the place every night
after closing, while I was going to college. Small place, intimate
booth dining, wall-wall carpeting, all food made in house. Some
decent food, occasionally some great food (king crab!).

Whatta freakin nightmare!

First and formost, the dishes you are considering are prohibitively
expensive. Buffets, or Smorgasbords as they are sometimes called, are
not good with high price points. Sure there are a few, like the
Ritz-Carlton at HalfMoonBay w/ its $100 buffet breakfast, but they are
rare and have the support of the SFBA gentry. Most are based on a
sub $10-15 price point. Even more expensive one's like that Asian
Buffet that hit the SFBA several years back ($14-18) has died. I can
see why, as the food really sucked!

First, you gotta have huge food storage. Walk-ins that will hold the
entire buffet, as food is not prepared by dish, but by gross amts,
none of it always eaten and left-overs must be stored for next day.
So, you must have enough storage for the unprepared food as well as
the already prepaired food. HUGE expense in both initial cost and
maint. The one I worked at had two. Smaller walk-in for meats and
much larger one for salads and veggies. Fortunately, I was never
tasked with cleaning the meat walk-in. Thank goodness. The stench
was overwhelming (think spoilage-expense). The six foot high Hobart
mixer (expense) had a permanent colony for roaches, despite several
attempts by an pro exterminator (expense). They were kept
"manageable".

One MAJOR expense in this kinda business is plain and simple waste. I
was always stunned to discover how underhanded and disgusting the
customers could truly be. My major task was to thoroughly clean the
dining room floor (carpet) every night. Move every table/chair, clean
every booth. It was horrifying.

The amount of food dumped under the booth tables was, at the very
least, astonishing. Ppl would dump whole platefulls of food on the
floor under the table and, I guess, go back for more. I'm talking
un-eaten food. Three or four pcs of un-eaten chicken, half plate of
mashed potatoes w/ gravy and dressing and sides. Pork chops, ribs,
veggies, whole un-eaten salads. Often, it looked like an entire table
of four would routinely dump all their plates under the booth table,
more than once!! This was the norm, not the exception, at least one
in three booths revealing this insanity every night. Rarely did a
single booth NOT indicate some degree of dumping. I could have fed an
orphanage with the untouched food I picked up off the floor, nightly.
Same with sugar/salt/pepper shakers, the entire contents emptied on
the floor, jes outta plain orneryness. That's all waste. While I
wasn't there to see it, I also heard about the theft. Bags of food.
Four or five full servings in purses, bookbags, shopping bags, etc.
This is all overhead.

The first time I really deep cleaned the carpet, a dusk-to-dawn job
with a commercial constant flow machine, owned by the resto, not
rented (expense), I was shocked to discover the carpet was actually a
patchwork print of bright primary colors, not completely wall-to-wall
dark brown. That's how much food ended up on the floor.

If I was to try this sorta business, I'd go with a hofbrau. Much more
control. The smorga I worked at no longer exists, the price of food
rising too high to continue. If they were still in business and
serving the same food, they'd be charging $25-35 per person and I
didn't even consider it very good food. I rarely ate their fare,
despite having permission to do so. The only exception was the king
crab! I could gorge till sick every Tues night. I think I've eaten
10 lifetimes of king crab.

I've seen Indian and Chinese restos pull off a pretty decent lunchen
buffet, but have only been to two full blown buffet restos since that
time in college. Country Time and that now-gone Asian buffet resto.
They both sucked. I've never seen a decent breakfast buffet,
anywhere, the scrambled eggs and crappy pancakes strictly garbage can
fodder, in my opinion. I'd like to try that $100 buffet at the HMB
R-C, with its champagne, caviar, and pheasant, but I bet the scrambled
eggs would still be overcooked and dried out. ;)

nb
 
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