848 Resale Value

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anfrhm

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John,

Money matters. If not I would suggest you go drain your retirement savings accounts and donate it all to charity.

I kinda know what you are saying but this is the second time in recent days I have seen you post about how it is against the Ducati way or some shit to mention money etc...

I must tell you that this comes off as some sort of elitist attitude big time if I'm being completely honest. Embarassing to a Ducatiast? Insulting? Give me a break...

At the end of the day the only difference between a Ducatisti and a Honda rider is that we made a concious decision (whatever the reasons might be) to buy a Ducati over a Honda for twice the price of what we would have paid for the Honda.

I really find it funny to hear this kinda talk. It almost suggests that everyone driving a Ducati is or should be rich. So not the case.

Cheers
 
mrinflux,

I get the whole thing about losing patience with age. I'm not 50 (34) and feel myself getting like that already...

As for me employing some strategy. Not sure you have the whole context for what transpired between myself and South oz there or not...

I had just looked back through some of his posting history including my original thread where shit hit the fan between he and I, this thread, and many others in the past and there seemed to be a trend for being rude to people unnecessarily etc...Then I posted this here...

Now that I'm starting to understand the guy a little more I don't see it as necessarily being as bad as I first thought and I probably shouldn't have started flame baking the guy here in this thread...my bad...

If this is some sort of strategy well I guess I'm busted....I call it more of an observation delivered in a flame baked harsh manner

Cheers
 
A brand-new 748 would have cost substantially more than the $16K you got your 848 for. Can't really compare them as the US got a substantial price break from Ducati for the current models.
 
What were the Ducati's going for before the 1098 era. I must say that I only know they were substantially more before but don't know the specifics...

As an example, what would a 999s run "back in the day"

Cheers
 
Dbone you're twisting my words.

I made no referrence to being rich, wealthy or any other such financial measures. My whole point, which you've seemingly missed, is that there are a few of us that find discussing Ducati's in terms of $$ quite vulgar, debasing and pointless to the whole experience of owning a Ducati...

If i can give you an example: My son goes to sailing school. It's a little community club on the foreshores of our harbour. He mingles with kids from working class families, single parents, and others who own multi-million dollar yachts. Do we care about who is who?- No. Kids and parents alike are too busy sailing in little plastic boats enjoying the wind in their face....

It's funny you mention Honda, because I'm aware of several rider's forums where (non-Ducati) people gloat and make a grand issue over "how much money Ducati owners waste when I got a Fireblade that's better at half the price yadda yadda yadda...." I've long since distanced myself from that kind of nonsense.

And no we're not elitist; when someone posts of a good deal (on CF, or Ohlins, or whatever) we are all the better for it. But then that's the difference between a 'helpful' thread, and one that isn't...

I'm outta here. Enough already; jeez no-one ever dreams of owning a Ferrari for its "resale value".....

jdw
 
LOL

Well props. When you put your point down that well I hear you loud and clear. I understand where you are coming from. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Cheers
 
I see the air is starting to clear a bit in here finally.
Now we are starting to get somewhere. Okay, some of you guys in here are very new to Ducati and a some aren't. I've been an owner since 1986.
Most if not all the good points about resale have been made already. Current economic conditions, market volumes, new vs 2nd hand etc etc.
In the current climate, as regular consumers, we truthfully can't expect not to take a hit if we were to sell our new bike. The laws of economics still prevail. Supply, demand, consumer confidence etc etc.
Ducati have traditionally been, in my mind, good for resale value due mainly to the quality of the product (to those of us who see it) and the relatively low numbers out there (obviously why most of us pay twice that to a comparable Japper). 99% of new models are going to take that initial hit from the puffed up price of dealer charges & profit, gubment taxes etc etc. The bounce back time and higher resale value is going to depend on what model and how many were made and sold.

A bit of my purchasing history albeit relatively few and far between.
I purchased my first new Ducati in 1986, a 650 Pantah for $5,500 AU. This ended up being the last & largest of the Pantah range. Rode the ring off it and took good care of it. I sold it 3 or so years after for $5,000.
While I owned that bike I bought another - a 1975 750SS - somewhat more collectable (around 250 of them worldwide) for %5,000 AU. Conservatively rode it and loved it. Sold it untouched 5 years on for $9,000 Au. I wish I hadn't. It would now be worth $40k or more.
My latest Ducati - a 98 916SPS. Now this bike was the equivalent of todays 1098R. They retailed here for $36k and I paid $18 for it at the 10 year old mark. That's not good resale. Even though it was the pinnacle in those days, titanium rods, sandcast cases, carbon fibre in lots of places - it pales in comparison these days even to an 848 performance wise.
Good resale value these days would be a 1098R Troy Bayliss. Much less volume than the 16RR and just as collectable.

If you want to get your money back on a 1098 or 848 you are going to have to wait 20 or more years and have it looking like new. Due to low production numbers 30 year old Ducatis are probably now selling for as much as the original purchaser paid for them.

As SOZ says, or as I heard it, you can't have your cake and eat it to. If you bought it to ride it then ride it. If you bought it for resale, don't ride it and just sit and wait & wait & wait.......
 
If you think 848's have had a hit, imagine having purchased a 999r Xerox.

Have you seen what those pieces of art have sold for recently?
 
The guy asked what I thought was a simple question about re-sale value, which in this economy, I'd say is a fair question. To infer that he was unhappy with the performance of his bike or to say that he should just "shut up and ride" is stupid and uncalled for. There are a few people on here who were nice about it and just answered the question, but I feel that it is unnecessary and crass to attack some in the way that South Oz did, and does on a regular basis, using the "I've been here longer so I'm entitled" attitude.

As far as my current occupation, yes, staight foward and up front is how the military works, however, all military personell are PROFESSIONALS!!" that is to say that even when being upfront and not "sugar coating" things, tact is used, so everyone walks away happy.
 
JDW, Elton, Brett, Jules, - cheers guys.

Everyone else - sorry for my abruptness. I have punk rock / young ones sense of humour. Get over me.

But my posts certainly livened up a rather droll and irrelevant debate didn't they????

All good fun. Chin up girls.
 
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