(2008-09-30) NS-RFC: Going on a diet

Dave Smith wrote:

Well dang. Someone tell me how to gain weight, please? I need to up about
10 pounds. My diet requirements: no meat, no dairy (well, low in lactose),
low carbs, no omega 3's, as little iron as possible, no nuts.

I'm eating more than I ever have in my life and I just keep losing weight.
Sigh.

kili
 
Steve Pope wrote:


The trick s balancing exercise that will build muscle and burn fat while
keeping it fun enough that you can keep it up. I was never a runner. I
played football in high school and practices were a bitch. It involved
a lot of running, push ups, sit ups, stride jumping and all sorts of
unpleasantness. The practices were a lot more demanding than th games.

When I joined the Y they set up a weight machine program for me along
with some cardio vascular stuff. Once I got into the routine was was
adding more weight and more reps to the programs. The problem was that
while i was gaining muscle mass, I was not losing weight, and I really
wanted to lose weight to make it easier for the poor horses that I ride.
It doesn't take a lot of brains to figure that jumping over those rails
and fences would be a lot easier if they had less weight to move up and
over. I cut back on the weight routines but increased the cardio exercises.

It is worth noting that once you get into an exercise routine it becomes
easier and it soon becomes a pleasant part of your daily routine.

Swimming is an excellent way to exercise your whole body and to burn off
calories. Unfortunately, it is boring as hell. I have a problem with
the pool at the local Y. They have limited hours for lane swimming and
while they mark lanes for different speeds they will not enforce it. For
some reason, one of the lanes is for "leisure swimming" two for medium
and one fast. I would consider myself to be a medium speed swimmer, but
I go for the distance, either 1,000 or 1,500 meters. I can't do it in
the medium lanes because there are too many slow swimmers getting in the
way. I can usually hold my own in the fast lane but inevitably get some
slow swimmer in my way. The staff at another nearby Y are much better at
enforcing lane speeds. If you are in a fast lane and someone else is
faster they send you to a slower lane.
 
Dimitri wrote:

I have stuck to my usual diet over the past few weeks. I have Shredded
Wheat with half a banana, a latte and a piece of toast with honey or
strawberry jam. Lunch was usually a bacon sandwich on toasted Italian
bread and a coffee. before dinner I had a Manhattan or two with crackers
and liverwurst, then dinner with wine, and dessert. However, I have
been helping my neighbour do his roof ..... stripping off the old
shingles and nailing in the new ones, a dozen trips up and down the
ladder each day, toting bundles of shingles up the ladder, then doing
doing my wone roof with his help. I must have been burning more
calories than I was injesting because I lost a pound over the two weeks
we have been doing it.... a large roof.
 
kilikini wrote:

Fist of all, I would recommend Keffir, fermented milk. The yeast and
bacteria have already eaten most of the lactose so even lactose
intolerant people can benefit from the good things in the milk without
reacting to the lactose. It restores the bacterial flora to your
intestines to help digest your food. Then I would recommend exercise so
that you can build some muscle mass.
 
"Cindy Hamilton" wrote in message
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On Sep 30, 7:01 pm, Dan Abel wrote:

That sounds like my retirement plan:

My 401K is in the crapper, so I may as well have some cheesecake.
That way, I'll enjoy myself and not outlive my savings.

Cindy Hamilton

COL

(crying out loud)

If I think about the Market and look at my numbers I'll cook a box of Kraft
Mac & Cheese and eat the whole damn thing myself then start on the ice
cream - with cream on top.

Dimitri
 
ChattyCathy wrote:

I don't diet. For one thing, I like my body, and for another, if I *did*
want to lose weight, there's ample evidence out there that 95% of diets
fail. I wouldn't accept any other medical treatment with that success
rate, either.

Serene

--
"I am an agnostic only to the extent that I am agnostic about fairies at
the bottom of the garden." -- Richard Dawkins
 
"cybercat" wrote in message
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She has a tough diet to live with and gain weight. I could only think of
fish, but that is high in omega 3's and probably iron. Kili, are you able
to work with a nutritionist?
 
Serene Vannoy wrote:


Of course diets fail. They frequently require weird eating patterns that
are difficult to maintain for a lifetime. However, for people who are
overweight from simple over eating, simple *small* reduction of intake
works.
 
Serene Vannoy wrote:



[Question is: How often have you muttered (to yourself and/or
nobody in particular) 'I need to go on a diet' (to lose some weight)?]

I don't mutter/think the above phrase to myself. Since entering middle
age, I have believed on an ongoing basis that my optimal weight is
somewhat lower than it often is, but I do not oscillate between
saying "I need to diet" with intervals of just ignoring my weight.
I give it a more or less constant, pretty much background level of
attention. I'm also a believer that information never subtracts
from decision making, so I measure my weight, my body fat percentage,
and the amount of calories and macronutrients I am consuming quite
frequently.

(And I have altered my diet at times in response to specific medical
information, e.g. high lipid levels, gout, hypertension, slightly high
glucose, but that is straying from the topic.)


I agree the evidence is completely there that easily 90% - 95% of diet
attempts fail. Possibly more than 95%.

What I haven't been able to find out is what fraction of people
succeed in deliberate weight loss, using the consensus definition
of this phrase [1]. I believe it to be 20% to 30% of individuals
who have tried, after much reading of the available data, but
have not found any studies that conclude with a figure for
exactly this. (You'd hope there would be not just studies,
but meta-studies, but AFAIK it's not there, which I think points
to the pisspoor state of science in this area.)

Steve

[1] An individual has succeeded at weight loss if they are
below their peak weight, have been below their peak weight
for five or more years, and have engaged in deliberate weight
loss during this time; persons with a medical condition
that is causing weight loss are excluded.
 
On Wed 01 Oct 2008 05:22:47p, Arri London told us...


The majority of people who are overweight are overweight from simply over
eating, and *small* reduction of intake does indeed work. However, the
major problem for most of these people is managing this process on their
own. If they had the discipline to do so, they might have already resolved
their weight issues.

Weight Watcher's is probably more successful than any other method in
helping members achieve their desired weight loss and maintaining their
weight, particularly if one's goal weight is reached and one continues to
go to meetings (free at that point).

Most people with excess weight issues really need some form of ongoing
support and accountability to someone else for continuing success. For
many, self-accountability is virtually impossible.

--
Wayne Boatwright
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Dimitri wrote:
Things are scary, for sure. Just this morning, I told my husband, that
I was not going to look. Why should I? There is nothing I can do to
change it. This is a good time to look at stocks you would like to
purchase, though. I'm going to go look under the seat cushions on the
sofa. :-)

Becca
 
Pete C. wrote:

Well after over 2 years of testing, the doctors have concluded that I'm
allergic to a *lot* of foods. I finally feel a little better since I've
completely changed my diet to low-carb vegetarian. I've been sick from
eating since I was a little kid and I never knew why. (My mom thought it
was all in my head.) I actually ended up being severely anorexic at one
point because *not* eating *didn't* make me sick - if that makes any sense.

Now that I finally have the answers, I can eat without pain, but I am losing
a bit too much weight.

The irony of this (or it maybe the cause of this) is that I have a complete
obsession with food. Not for myself to eat, but how flavors blend. What
works with what. How you can put two funky things together to come up with
an incredible dish. I love to experiment in the kitchen - although I
usually don't eat what I make. My husband gets to be the guinea pig. :~)

I indulge on forbidden foods now and then and I pay for it, but sometimes it
just calls ya. Like last night. My husband BBQ'd a slab of pork ribs over
cherry wood. I *had* to have a couple of ribs after smelling them for
hours!

kili
 
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:38:54 -0400, "kilikini"
wrote:


I haven't tried it becuase I don't have a problem with regular low-fat
cottage cheese... (I like the 'whipped' one best because it's not so
lumpy) but it's definitely there. And come the holiday season they'll
roll out the lactose-free eggnog again as well. That'll put some meat
on your bones...
 
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