2003 TMNT Utrom Shredder

In fairness, I imagine when they first started brainstorming ideas for a new TMNT series the creators assumed the new Oroku Saki would be human. By the time they actually got around to writing the story arc of season one they'd already settled on making Shredder an Utrom.

What ABrown is arguing is that they only came up with the idea between the first and second seasons, but that doesn't square either with Laird's own testimony or the actual evidence of this case.
 
It being the Tengu Shredders makes alot of sense. From what I heard the whole Battle Nexus Shredder helmit was supposed to be handled in the 5th season before the budget got slashed and the episode order did as well. Sadly alot of plots they were planing had to be dropped and the whole season had to be rushed. If i remember correctly the Daimyo said they were the ones who taught humans ninjutsu so its not to shocking the Ninja Tribunal characters came in contact with them and they got the Shredder helmit design from them.

Maybe if the Lost season was in fact done like it was supposed to be done instead of that garbage Fast Forward but I guess we will never know.
 
Who knows. Anyway I'm sure that by the time they even started writing season one they knew Shredder was going to be an Utrom. Really they knew by season two, they knew by the time Shredder survived how he got his head cut off that he was an Utrom. Yes ultimate Ninja seems to create a plot hole at first glance but I'm sure that when that episode was written the writers already knew Shredder was an Utrom.
 
LMAO, stop making things up out of thin air. Season 5 was always going to be 13 episodes. The season wasn't cut in half because of FF. It turned into 12 episodes because the Hun/Garbageman episode was too adult for kids. Stop these lies.



Wow, take your ridiculous hatred elsewhere. Season 5 turned out exactly the way it was supposed to, the scripts of those episode were written well before the FF production even started.

FF also had plenty of good episodes despite the cheaper animation, so your hate is unwarrented.

I love how people make things up out of thing air. Season 5 was NEVER going to be 26 episodes, whether FF existed or not.

NOTHING was cut.
 
Because you're ignoring facts that have been presented and stating concepts and creating facts that you WISH were true. That's the definition of the word he invented to satire that sort of thing.

And let's see, hit show, hit book, hit ice cream favor, stood up to a President, voted one of Time Magazine's most influential people...

... yeah, total definition of a loser.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if the mods shouldn't just close this thread. A topic discussing our opinions of the Utrom Shredder along with the pros and cons of the idea might be fun. But there's no point watching people dismiss objective facts in favour of their own idle speculation.

So if any mods want to end this futility now then go ahead. I for one have said all I need to on this matter.
 
Such a request has been made to the moderators. I just want to apologize to all who have viewed this thread. I didn't mean for it to get out of control as it has.
 
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