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Manu7

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I recently noticed that most people in my classes are bullshitting their homework and making A's doing it. While I on the other hand, write about half as much as them, in a compact manner, w/o bullshitting, and make fucking C's and D's. Fucking bullshit.
 
The reality of school is that most of the kids who do well do so because they're cheating. Glad to see you have integrity anyway.
 
I like to think of it not as cheating, but as a creative way around the rules. But alas, what worked in high school does not fly in college. There's this shittastic website called "turnitin.com" utter bullshit and all the profs. use it.

Now, back on topic. As I see it there are a few things you can do, you can bullshit, you can cheat, or you can go talk to the teacher. Make some waves. And there is always the option of keeping your mouth shut and still getting shitty grades. Last year I was getting grades just like you when I was working my ass off. I was getting all sorts of nasty comments on my work like, "Why did you waste my time turning this in?" Well, I talked to the dean and she said, go in and ask your teacher questions, even if you already know the answers. That way it looks to the teacher like you are trying really hard. After I did that, I started getting better grades and the teacher stopped glaring at me all the time. Maybe the teacher just thinks you're slacking. Go talk to em.

Well, that is my advice for the day. Cheerio!
 
One of the facts about school, and work, for that matter, is that if you want to succeed, you need to know your audience, and fulfill their expectations.

Schools generally have this idea that "participation" in class indicates an understanding of and interest in the subject. Utter bullshit, most of the time, but if that's what it takes to get a better grade, ask questions every now and then that you know the teacher can answer. It really pisses most of them off if you disagree, or ask them something they can't answer. Takes a pretty confident teacher/professor to admit you are also teaching them.

As far as your homework goes, kudos to you for being honest. You don't need to cheat to get a good grade, and those that do will eventually lose by it. But... if your teachers expect XX number of pages, or XX number of footnotes, be sure that your work reflects that, even if it looks "padded" to you. Again, it's knowing your audience. You're probably smarter than most of your fellow students, so it can be frustrating when that is not recognized.

Another minor detail is learning styles. Some folks only understand a subject if it's presented with graphs. Others prefer words. Learn which way your teachers want it, and comply. It may not be the way you think it should be presented, but which is more important right now? The grade, or the fact that you are right, they are wrong, and by golly, you're going to make them see that?

It sounds like a lot of compromise, which it is. I hate having to "dumb things down" for my boss, but it works for him, and I am slowly teaching him how things can be written or displayed better. And, in the meantime, I can now prepare a year end report that will be understood by grade school children. ;)

Magnolia had a good idea about talking with your teacher. Couldn't hurt to ask sometime what they are expecting, and more specificity about the improvement opportunities within the work you've submitted.

Good luck.
 
i had C's and D's last year too. and the beginning of this year! but im ending this year with 2 A's and 2 B's. i dont know how it happened.
 
if they are doing more, but cheating, make yours better, and instead of making your shtuff compact draw it out and use big words ^^ that usualy works
 
You want bullshit? I did a HUGE research report on solar energy and had to go to the library, do some research and write my report from scratch with out copying and pasting anything from any sites.

I go to class a few days later and we're presenting our reports. These two girls did solar power too (because we were supposed to do something on an alternative energy source). Guess what? They fucking COPIED & PASTED OFF OF FUCKING WIKIPEDIA! I mean, come on. I got a copy of their notes and compared with the site's wording. The fucking broads didnt even know how to pronounce some of those words while they were presenting on PowerPoint. They didn't even credit wikipedia, too, they just copied and pasted and did their report in a quick 10 minutes.

I would print a copy of the wikipedia page, and their notes and show them to the teacher, but thats just not me.

I would compare the two pages to the girls themselves and shove it in their faces, but thats not me either. Besides, it would be pointless. They don't care. They don't respect my opinion. Fuckers.
 
I know what you mean... I'm a TA for one of my teachers, and I have been noticing in correcting my class' assignments that the people who are friends or the people that are together all have the same amount of answers right, and all have the same questions wrong.
That's just the way things go sometimes, though. Just keep on doing your best. Or, if all else fails, tell your teacher, haha...
 
So what I'm getting is that I have to a) sell my peers out b) bullshit my way through school or c) continue getting bad grades. What a fucked up set of choices....
 
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