WSj Report: Nokia CEO Considers Big Shake-Up on Friday 11th

Vaporware.

While Androids are running on dual core already and hitting the marketplace. XOOM is out in about a week or two. LG Star is already being sold in Korea.

And soon Apple will do dual core.




That is what Nokia got into trouble in the first place.




Better than nothing at all, better than running in a tiny square with large empty borders around it.

And there is always a good chance the scaling turns out well, which I found out with many Android apps on the Galaxy Tab.



Is that why Microsoft plans Windows 7 for ARM for tablets instead?





Wrong. The Galaxy Tab got the Android Market support and so did the Dell Streak. They got all the Google apps and everything.

Google saying Android 2.2 isn't optimized for tablets is not a question of support.




You don't really understand do you? You're comparing displays. iOS on iPhone and iOS on tablets are still teh same iOS. Same APIs, same kernel, same components.

Windows Phone 7 and Windows 7 on ARM are two different operating systems. The latter takes more of the desktop Windows. Internals and all.



Interface for tablets have the one crucial thing similar to smartphones. That is touch. They sit perfectly between desktop and mobile.



No. That's an illusion. The controls on the Xbox 360 and a touch device are vastly different. You are running on two very different processor architectures.



Yes. Yet OpenGL is much more universal than DirectX. It spans different brands and from anything from smartphones to graphical workstations.



Why are you comparing the desktop versions (the Linux one is better from what I heard) to the mobile version?



Angry Birds don't support DirectX at this moment.



I am not talking about the interface. I am talking about OS kernels. Windows CE and Windows desktop don't share the same kernels. They are in effect two different operating systems. iOS and MacOS on the other hand, still share the same kernel and OS underpinnings.





Show me a Nokia phone that has a graphical interface running Java apps and would package things like Opera Mini. That's what a true Series 40 is. I know what those 25 dollar Nokia phones look like.
 
You're just picking and choosing your arguments. You argue that iOS on iPhone and iPad are the same, while ignoring that OS X on desktops is different and then criticise Windows and Windows Phone for having the same distribution, just the other way around. Whether kernels are shared is again only academic, as you can use the same APIs even with different kernels and architectures. Your arguments are entirely fictitious as they're not based on real world practicality, and only on comparing bullet points.
 
FFR & Dutchtender: I must concede that you were both right all along.

I guess I was in denial all along. I just can't stand the thought that Nokia have given up on Meego......
 
Rhetorical question, but what happens if by sometime in 2012 when the first Nokia WP7 is introduced, WP7 has failed to gain any new traction, and even worse, Microsoft changes course again, which they're notorious for doing?

I mean, already I'm hearing how Windows 8 (the desktop version) is their platform of the future that's supposed to run on ARM.

And yes, at best, for the next two years, the company is in a holding pattern. I'm betting investors have run out of patience for the company and are all likely bailing out at a loss, hence the stock tanking 14% in one day.

That baby's going to $1.

This isn't a sure thing at all for Nokia. In fact, I've heard a few analysts who are saying that the company is toast, regardless of this deal.
 
They will switch to android
Meego is pretty much dead, nokia outsourced the ui to a group consisting of three working outside of nokia
 
The more I think about, the more I wish they'd gone to Android. It's gone from nothing to about 1/3 market share in a few years, compared to windows phone which is bleeding market share.

Rumors are that the other windows phone manufacturers are not happy with the close ties between MSFT and Nokia and could well drop the os. If MSFT decides to pursue phones the way it's pursued some other losing causes, they may dump enough money into the venture to make it work. Otherwise, hard to see how Nokia thrives.

Waiting a few years to adopt Android just gives the other manufacturers a bigger head start.
 
I read about that Meego team of 3 UI engineers on other sites too, and it seems like that was in place long ago before all these changes happened. Makes me question Nokia's devotion to Meego all along. If true no wonder its been so slow to see progress.

I was also floored that the 1500 workers who walked out were only one part of the symbian OS team for the kernel I guess. If that's how large symbian requires to keep it alive, not even talking about specific device support teams, then goodness please get rid of that OS!
 
Just to clarify, I meant throwing money at something doesn't guarantee success.

You need talent, from the top on down to the bottom. You need people to innovate and follow-through.
 
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