Will RIAA attempts to shut down broadband ISPs be the death of P2P?

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With each passing day more and more talk is generated of the RIAA getting broadband ISPs shut off for P2P users.
Here are a few examples
http://www.boycott-riaa.com/article/4678
http://www.gnutella.com/forums/gnutellastop/145
http://www.bearshare.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11536

Will this trigger a fear in P2P users that, combined with the SSSCA bill, will signal the ultimate victory of the RIAA and MPAA?
Personally, I'm surprised these corporations have the brass to go after individual users, which is a move I'm sure will hurt there public relations once this information goes mainstream.
Is this how it all ends?
 
The commercial corporations on Gnutella are the problem, including the ISPs. They are the weak link and the RIAA knows it.

1. Run a open source client
2. Push developers to write code that prevents the RIAA and ISPs from knowing what files you are sharing.

The commercial Gnutella client developers won't do it because its a law suit waiting to happen if they make a program that allow people to hide things.
Support open source clients any way you can.
 
There is such a thing as unregistered #2 described. it is called freenet. It is possible gnutella may fall in the coming year. But our loss will be the invincible freenet's gain.
 
This thread also discusses this issue:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10761

Also, here is a petition to stop DMCA - not exactly comprehensive arguments, but so far the only one I have found. Any lawyers out there want to draft up a better petition to fight the sweeping raft of new copyright legislation seeking to take away our 'fair use' access to the culture of the 20th century?

http://www.PetitionOnline.com/stopdmca/

Could sure do with some signatures! Anyone know of any other actions that can be taken, other petitions etc?

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"We gonna kick those crazy bald-heads out of town." --- Bob ****** 1976
 
They can't shut Gnutella down .
Even if they managed to shut down all the hostcaches , you suddenly have 50 people standing up saying : hey I got a T1 , how do I run a hostcache ?

And when they shut those down it will start over again .
I wonder how long it will take before the record companies give up ?
 
If you DOS one client , the clients it's connected to will see the connection timeout and simply drop it . This drops them below their set number of connections and they wil look for new connections with other clients .
Thus that one unfortunate client that got DOSed gets kicked of the network but the network will recover to optimal condition in no time .

It's indeed easy to DOS one client but not the network .
You can't compare a DOS attack against a single computer or server with an attack against an complex network like Gnutella .
 
Let's say you have a fast host with 500 connections. All this host does is spamming the network with spoofed query results for any incoming query. Or maybe it arbitrarily changes the IP numbers and GUIDs of all messages passing through it. - Those messages will be spread by the other clients throughout the network and lots of traffic will be caused making gnutella unusable.

It could be even worse, if a node floods gnutella with queries. It could give every query a different GUID & IP address and disconnect / reconnect very frequently, claiming it was just a normal LimeWire node.
 
I supposed you were talking about a typical DOS attack .
You're right but you're talking about malicious written clients .
That's not a typical DOS attack .

If you drop the term "DOS" , everone assumes youre talking about CPU , memory and connection overloads .
 
Well, DOS just means denial of service. There are quite a lot of denial of service attacks (e.g. against computers with personal firewalls, by simulating a DOS attack from the hosts DNS, which causes the firewall to block the DNS) that doesn't work by causing overloads of CPU, memory or connections...
 
Yes , there are lots of kinds of DOS attacks .
But I said it wasn't a typical DOS attack .
Under typical I mean , fill a connection with random data coming from random IP's (IP spoofing)

Then 2 things can happen :
- His machine crashes either by memory shortage or CPU overload .
- His connection overloads and he's forced of the net .
 
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