Will Liberal/socialism be the fall of Western civilization?

ynot

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I have live all over the world and one of my observation is that western cultures are not reproducing and I wondered why I came up with a possible factor.....Taxes I sat down and calculated the average amount of taxes paid by the avg European and it came up to over 70% every nation needs the avg woman to have 2.2 children to sustain itself ( in germany 30% of german women have never had a child.

Then I did the US with a person making 45K I calculated Fed,state,fica,sales,property taxes and it added up to 58% that leaves 42 cent on the dollar after paying government. Right now the US is at 2.2 per woman but that is mostly because of Hispanic women. Then I concluded if couples paying 70% and 58% in taxes is there any incentive to have many or any children. Right now the US is a little behind Europe in fertility is liberal/socialist policies the catalyst to the declining of Western population....your opinion
As usual liberals are a big disappoinment no opinion, conjectures, different points of view to my observation..just juvenile simplistic irrelevant replies.
Ahhh some thinkers showed up. Hey green tea where did I state I have a problem with Hispanic women all I stated was it if was not for them the US population would be in decline also...man it's weird how liberals can project their own bias in a simple question
 
You're a smart guy. Mark Steyn actually wrote an entire book on this exact problem, called America Alone. Long story short, yes. There won't be enough young, working people to fund all the retired people, adults who don't work, and free everything for children.
 
Socialism and liberalism arent the same thing first of all. Look up the definition of liberalism and socialism....not on wiki.

Second, socialism is an economic government policy, and has nothing in and of itself to do with taxes.

The fall of the westernism will be due to the same things that caused its last two falls (the fall of the roman empire and the dark ages)...zealous religionism, blind ignorance and zenophobia, establishment of a formalized economic caste system and massive levels of greed.

All things the current neoconservative republican party stand for and love!
 
You really don't think the Bush Administration was chopping away at that tree for the last 8 years?

I am glad you made it through your coma, but it is time for you to read and get up to date.
 
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