Why the assumption that a middle class woman will suddenly end up in a slum if she is a single mother?

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I don't understand why the assumption that a woman who single parents her child will automatically become less than how she is raised. If a woman comes from a middle class background, a child will be a hiccup in her road, but not a roadblock. She can still get an education, have a career, own a home. A child is not going to cause her to suddenly become someone that is outside of her already established values. I don't understand why the assumption is that a child will ruin a woman, or that because a woman has a baby she will not accomplish what she could. It seems just the opposite to me. A woman who loses a baby to adoption will grieve and must become convinced of her own inadequacy. I would think that to be more debilitating than a year off!Red Elephant. I was a single parent of three after my husband and I divorced. It was hard, but it was doable. No one said easy, and that is your assumption, not what I said. College can be put off a year or so, but a degree can be obtained (I worked at a University that depended largely on Non-traditional students to survive...the campuses are full of them!), career can wait, women do get husbands, all the reasons to surrender are temporary things, but the loss of a child is forever.Vanessa, you didn't answer the question. If you want to ask a question, get your own up there.Red Elephant, with 50% of marriages ending in divorce, the odds are that a LOT of women are going to be single parents. You don't see them lining up to surrender their children, so apparently the vast majority are doing just fine, thank you.
 
Because single mothers pi$$ & moan like they're disabled or something.I don't get it, they choose to be mothers. Why do they have to whine about it?
 
???I don't think children are ever seen as setbacks. I'm not sure I understand the question. Do you mean if they divorced a woman would end up in a less desirable financial situation? Well it is true, but like you said women can still and are capable of getting all that they need for themselves and their children. I've seen many cases where women stay because of that simple reason; financial. I only know one woman out of all those abusive relationships to leave her husband for good, and she has suffered, but after two years she is better off, her son is happy and even though she doesn't have the two story leave it to beaver home she'd rather be living in her small apt. than to ever have a man give her everything but love.
 
Because if they don't force that assumption down everyone's throat adoption would be much harder to promote.As for the other person who replied first... Single mothers do not "pi$$ and moan" about it. At least they are doing the right thing and taking responsibility for their child which is more than I can say of the 'father' who has taken the loser's approach and abandoned mother and baby as happens in so many cases.
 
I don't understand why people think that. We are middle class. We are not rich, and we adopted, so i don't know why that is.
 
You are making it out to seem like it will be so easy to be a single mom. That there aren't enormous struggles to make enough money to live on, etc. Calling it a simple hiccup is very much minimizing the very hard job it is for most women to be single parents, especially if there is no financial support. For young women who haven't gone to college yet having to balance education, parenthood and most likely a full time job to support themselves is much more than a hiccup. I don't believe a child will ruin a woman but I do feel it is much more difficult that you are making it out to be.Edit: Thats wonderful that you were able to pull yourself through it. Unfortunately not all women are as strong and capable. I know some single parents who have gotten through the hard times like you did but I also know a number of them who were never able to get to a point where they were not struggling. I'm not saying that one should automatically choose adoption. Its not something anyone should consider lightly.Edit 2: Yes and the majority of them have child support and other financial support from their ex husbands.
 
After completing a 4 year (private)university degree, plus masters degree in the fine arts and education, I went to the State University to do graduate work in Fine Art Painting. The school was filled with middle-class single parents...mothers and fathers, both. It was a down-town commuter school, without a live-in student population.This is the type of higher ed. that works for student parents. It was close to transportation, affordable housing, shopping, entertainment, daycare for kids right on campus,closed-off traffic, play areas, and the hours were flexible. Costs were very reasonable.The student body was multi-ethnic, multi-racial, multi-cultural, multi-lingual. And the ages of the students ranged from 18 to 80. Most were in their 20s to 30s.
 
I think it probably has more to do with the projected morality of the situation. Many people feel that a sole parent home is inappropriate or lacking in some way, and it enables them to perpetuate that myth.Personally I fail to understand how anything short of a damaging or dangerous environment is 'inappropriate'. We all have different ideas on how children should be raised and most people do just fine.
 
my mother is a wonderfull lady i am one of her four children and we have a great life shes on the pension and has help from the goverment and we live in a 2 story 6 bedroom house and we are all well educated not to mension happy.and so much more but what im saying is its not your background but what you now who you now and love is the main thing if you have love you have everything but thats only from my point of veiw thanks.
 
children are permanent. its mire then a hicup. ive know dozens of middle class parents who go on to struggle raising thier children. of the people i know just a few fight the up hill battle to stay omen their feet and get in a better place others recieve any help they can get, and focus on nurturing their little ones. either way it is a struggle and MOST parents choose to accept the struggles, for their children, some see the bumps in the road and run the other way,sometimes leading to adoption, but from what i see most of the time the kids are cared for by one parent while the other runs or by family while the parents get their "yayas" out.
 
it helps with the dogma. funny thing, with the divorce rate going the way it is, many married adoptive moms will likewise be *gasp* single. so maybe they should place their adopted children with a loving married couple. and when that couple divorces, the adoptee should be placed with another loving married couple....after all, the WORST thing in the world is for a kid to be raised by a single woman..
 
Dear Sly.I think the answer lies in the historical treatment of women and children in general. The ideas that a woman without a man is incapable of caring for herself, much less herself and child(ren) are "chattel" has been around for centuries. Arranged marriages, dowries, "family honor", lack of rights as human beings, etc. have all contributed to and perpetuated these stupid stereotypes.If you were an older, unmarried woman - even up until the 1950's - it was assumed that there was something "wrong" with you and that is why you were an "old maid". Having children outside of wedlock made you a "bad", "fallen", etc. woman. Being raped meant the victim had been "asking for it" or "promiscuous". Women were referred to as ""the weaker sex" (ha!). Women were not allowed to have jobs, vote, own property, etc. for ages and even now that we have won the "rights" to those things we get paid less for the same jobs (hopefully the Ledbetter statutes will help with this!), have been pushed against "glass ceilings", harassed and discriminated against, etc.“Women do two-thirds of the world’s work, receive 10 percent of the world’s income and own 1 percent of the means of production.”-Richard H. Robbins, Global Problems and the Culture of Capitalism, (Allyn and Bacon, 1999), p. 354" For many women, unpaid work in and for the household takes up the majority of their working hours, with much less time spent in remunerative employment. Even when they participate in the labour market for paid employment, women still undertake the majority of the housework. When women work outside the household, they earn, on average, far less than men. They are also more likely to work in more precarious forms of employment with low earnings, little financial security and few or no social benefits. Women not only earn less than men but also tend to own fewer assets. Smaller salaries and less control over household income constrain their ability to accumulate capital. Gender biases in property and inheritance laws and in other channels of acquiring assets also leave women and children at greater risk of poverty. Paid employment for women does not automatically lead to better outcomes for children. Factors such as the amount of time women spend working outside the household, the conditions under which they are employed and who controls the income they generate determine how the work undertaken by women in the labour market affects their own well-being and that of children."-— UNICEF, State of the World’s Children, 2007U.S. women represent 51% of the population, but comprise less than: * 1.2% of Fortune 500 CEOs. Source: Catalyst Census of Women Corporate Officers (www.catalystwomen.org ) * 2.7% of the highest paid officers at Fortune 500 companies. Source: Catalyst * 15% of the members of Congress. Source: Women's Research and Education Institute (http://www.wrei.org/pubs/WC_108.pdf )To reach equal compensation:In 2003, the median income of full-time, year round U.S. workers was $41,520 for men and $31,663 for women. Source: U.S. Census Bureau - Income in the United States: 2003 (www.census.gov )The simple fact is, women have more responsibility and less support than men. Being responsible for a child or children adds to a woman's "burden" of work without compensation. And since the prevailing attitude is that we (women) do not "deserve" help (despite the even most basic fact that we are RAISING THE NEXT GENERATION who will be making decisions for all of us at some point) or that that children are not a "communal responsibility"; it is quite possible that a woman CAN easily slip into poverty - with or without children.Until women have ACTUAL EQUAL RIGHTS and children have better and in some cases even just some RIGHTS and we start acting like communities instead of hanging families out to dry we will see this problem continue and this awful (because it IS partly true) stereotype and mindset in the general public. And no, I'm not "man bashing". Men AND women have allowed this to happen. It is up to men AND women to fix it.
 
Good question. All of the single mothers I know continued their education and created successful careers as nurses, sales execs, teachers, etc. And they did this while raising a young child.The myth of the poverty stricken single mother is hard to shake from our culture.
 
I believe it's a knee jerk reaction for people who are sexist in their thinking. A woman with a man is fine with her children, yet some people with archaic viewpoints believe that a woman cannot be successful at parenting without a man.There are millions of successful men and women in this world who were parented by a single mother.
 
I think there are several things going on. There's sexism-- the belief a woman is not complete without a man.There's age discrimination-- the belief that only older women will make good mothers or can be stable influences.There's class discrimination-- the belief that being of a lower economic class or making little money is a terrible thing or permanent condition, not a step common on the road to success. An unplanned baby may cause even a middle class woman temporary financial hardship, but I think that is too often assumed to be a permanent condition, not a brief cash shortage.There's still a stigma against premarital sex, since the United States (and to some extent Canada, but less so) has a higher percentage of religious and social conservatives than many nations.But honestly, I think there's an additional factor. I think to an extent we sometimes ironically and unintentionally push this idea ourselves when we speak on behalf of mothers, by talking about how a pregnant mother needs to be "supported," without giving any context. And I think people may get scared off in discussions about the subject when the idea that we need to "support" single mothers gets tossed around without much explanation. In reality, all a mother is likely to need is temporary financial assistance till she gets on her feet, emotional support to help her see she already has the capability to be a good parent, or both. However, without that clarified, "support" can easily be taken as "full support of this family is now a burden on the taxpayers, and the mother either intends to contribute nothing herself to her own support or the support of her child, or is incapable of doing so," as though we see pregnancy as a free pass to live off the hard work of others, or like there's no possible way she can function on her own. Now, this is actually RARELY true. But it can come off that way, especially when the focus of discussion seems to be on "giving support" (apparently placing the main responsibility on others, and implying the mother herself is not capable) rather than "helping a mother support herself and her child."I think we (including me, definitely,) sometimes shoot ourselves in the foot a little by how we broach the subject and phrase our ideas-- or by not explaining fully what we mean in context-- especially in light of the discriminatory views I mentioned earlier.
 
I will place my bets on the average single mom (or dad) who is a scrapper any day over a most of the spoiled married brats that I work with. Gawd, I feel sorry for the tug of war that their kids (bio and adopted BTW) are exposed to. The majority of the "marrieds" end up divorcing anyway and their poor kids are used as emotional pawns.The assumption is false. SSHHHH - don't let on to the truth. The baby sellers will go out of business.
 
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