Why is Symbian MIA on CDMA phones?

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louie642000

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Help me understand this. Nokia, Samsung, LG, and the like are completely ignoring CDMA by not producing Symbian Series 60 phones. Nokia I can understand with the whole Qualcomm mess. My hope then is to see a Nokia N95-like or E90-like device that will operate on Sprint's new WiMax network set to go online next year. But Samsung and LG have no excuse on why not to bring Symbian Series 60 handsets to Sprint and Verizon.

Right now, Windows Mobile and Palm(Garnet) OS are dominating on the CDMA spectrum of things.

Look I understand the following:

CDMA is to GSM as Imperial is to Metric as NFL Football is to Soccer.

We're a unique market in the USA(and Canada by extension) but we still are major profitmakers for companies. I left Cingular for Sprint 1 year ago because I was able to score the $30 SERO plan. My Samsung A920 is functional and does just about everything I could do on my old Nokia 6620, and then some(like GPS, Sprint TV, etc) but ideally I'd like to see a phone that has all the function with Sprint/Samsung(CDMA 800/1900 and EV-DO Rev. A for starters, and then pull a Blackberry by giving us 900/1800 GSM for overseas with 2100 HSDPA).

Come on Samsung and LG, you can do this and I know the demand would be there. I want Symbian, but I don't want to give up my sweet Sprint SERO plan. I want a Smartphone, but I don't want to take the dive into the Windows Mobile world(and I'm not interested in the new Linux-based Palm OS that'll be coming out later this year). I'd like to wait till WiMax or when Sprint's entire network is EV-DO Rev. A before I think of upgrading but I want S60.
 
Samsung, LG, and other carriers make Series 60 phones now. Yes Nokia is the primary user of it but if Symbian were smart, they'd be making a huge push to get Samsung, LG, and the like to put S60 on more Sprint Phones. Sprint's not closed off like Verizon, we use JAVA(J2ME), not BREW.

At the very least, give Samsung and LG some Series 60 phones and then once WiMax goes live next year, put Series 60 on any new phones/devices for that.
 
of cuz i know they do. But how often u see us talk about them here? Pana used to make s60 phones, and now they completely drop out of the gsm market. Don't forget that i said symbian is basically nokia. I mean it because nokia owns 48% of symbian, which is the largest share compare to the 2nd largest owner, 16% for ericsson (NOT SE). So if any of the phone makers want to make cdma s60 phones, u betcha it has to go thru nokia somehow. And i sure hope nokia dont ruin the reputation of symbian by making it on cdma. All cdma nokia phones have been crap, and i m not just saying s60.
 
That's why I say Samsung and LG should be given more latitude to develop CDMA phones that make use of Symbian here in the USA. Yes Nokia and SE decided to say No to CDMA, and if they don't want to pander to good, american Qualcomm then that's their call.

But don't go all Apple on us and restrict who and what can use Symbian. For all the raving that Symbian is better then WM5 or WM6, you guys sure seem willing to let CDMA be controlled by Microsoft when it comes to Smartphones/Pocket PC PDA Phones. If HTC of all carriers can hit it big and carve out their niche and prove that there is a demand for Smartphones with CDMA, then there's no reason why Nokia can't be a little bit more liberal in allowing the phone makers that DO make handsets for CDMA carriers to use Symbian.
 
Of cuz they wont let samsung and LG make cdma phones since u say it, the 2 biggest owner of symbian are anti-cdma. You just nailed it yourself.

Samsung and LG are never known to make phones that are function-heavy. Even if they do they wont sell well. Doesnt matter if its GSM or CDMA.
 
Are they anti-CDMA because it's a bad technology, or because Qualcomm created and patented it to all hell?

That is to say, would Nokia and SE be more willing to support CDMA in the Americas if Qualcomm weren't in the picture?
 
that u gotta ask them

i donno about that as well, but i dont really see why they should do anything for the cdma market SPECIFIALLY for north america (who are cheap, and think gsm/cdma razrs are the best thing ever) when the heavy markets in asia and europe (ppl who are willing to pay top money for top tech) all use GSM.

And i just like cdma because switching phones will be a pain. Well there are not really too many phones to switch to anyway i guess I would rather pay a bit more seriously than being pinned stuck into a phone, but thats just me
 
CDMA has been great for me. Yes I loved my Nokia 6620 and Cingular, but I didn't want to become one of those Phone addicts that would upgrade and get a new phone every couple months.

I just feel that the USA is a market to make money in. The NFL makes a ton of money, even if it's not popular elsewhere. Ditto the Imperial Measurement System, and 850/1900 mhz cell phone bands.
 
i m sorry but, thats what ppl in hk do. I know tons of friends who does that in HK, bst so often that it seems like they switch phones every few days. And this is a reason why nokia wont put the effort here, ppl are just way too cheap! -_-*

not really, there are so many ppl who wouldnt get a phone because there is no 850, and now there are so many ppl who wouldnt get a phone because there is no us 3g

imo u should just open a pre-paid gsm line and satisfy your s60 needs, instead of praying something that will never happen, to happen
 
I'm holding out hope that the Sanyo Pro 900 will be as awesome as I'm hearing it'll be.

That or Nokia or Samsung will come out with a Symbian WiMax Phone or Motorola will come out with a Linux OS WiMax Smartphone.

All of the above will happen next year, when my 2 year contract is up. I used to think I made a deal with the Devil for having a 2 year contract but with Sprint's SERO plan it was a no-brainer.
 
Here is another point of view:

Why would nokia bother making CDMA phones when carriers control the whole experience and what they release on their network? At least with GSM handsets, if the carrier choosed not to sell it, you can put your SIM in and off you go, with CDMA you cannot do that. R&D costs money, if there is no guarantee, why bother?
 
This isn't about Nokia Phones as much as it is allowing Symbian Series 60 to be used as the OS on Samsung and LG phones on CDMA Networks.

If Nokia and Sony Ericsson want no part in CDMA, fine. But don't completely lock CDMA out of having Symbian options by not letting Samsung and LG use Symbian on their CDMA phones.
 
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