Why is it that people will debate you to death saying math is more important...

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...than English? I for one think the complete opposite and I actually think English is probably most important class that schools require.
With English you learn how to communicate and knowing English can help you out in many other languages and we are most likely to use this all of our life unlike math.
When in sam's heck am I going to go find the slope of a hill or need to know the cosine of 93942309? I understand needing to know basic math, but much further than that I don't find necessary.
However some people will just debate me to the end on this subject (may I add a few of these people who fail English and math both).

Am I correct?
 
They're both languages, and you need them both.
Yes, you will probably use english more, but it's
correctness in detail will be less important.
 
well, i think it sorta is.
I guess it's because people have different minds and stuff, but then again you wouldn't be able to understand one without the other.

So really, they are equally needed. You can't learn without knowing a language, so you have to learn the language first. THEN the math. Really, all you need is english(or whatever language) but you'll really find life hard without the basic math, and maybe a little bit of algebra. Trigonometry, Geometry, physics, you don't need unless you wanna be a doctor or scientist or something.
 
Some people just don't appreciate the deepness and beauty of math. Language is sloppy, math is truth.

morporc: Or they could simply make their case in a DIFFERENT language.
 
There's no "best" subject, it just depends what you go on to do in your liife and what you do in your life. If you go on to become a mathematician, obviously math is more important. If you go on to become a writer, obviously English is more important. If you go in to becoming a chemist/pharmacist obviously science is the most important. If you become a translator, you will need English the most (combined with the other foreign language). All jobs have different things you have to do, and we don't just learn these things for no reason. If no one used math, why would we learn it in school? We learn it because there are a hell of a lot of jobs that you need math, same goes for English, same goes for the sciences. Even for history, there are a lot of job opportunities. Historians, politicians, archaelogists, they all need to know history. The people who do excavations on the Pyramid and Great Wall, the people who find the first civilizations on Earth, they all need history.
 
I think its because although english (language) is just as important, Math is universal and is a language all countries can understand.
 
English - only helps you communicate in one language. Math, that's studied everwhere, it's the same everywhere. But then, I'm better at math, so I'm going to say it's more important.
I don't think you could actually judge which is more important... Both need to be taught, and taught well. English is the basis of pretty much anything that will ever be done.
Math? That's what separates the people that'll get an OK job, from the people that'll excel. Most jobs have an element of math in them, and you're gonna look pretty dumb if you don't get it.
But then, an eloquent person / speech is much more likely to sell a person to an employer, than saying "well i cant talk proper but at least i can do math".
I don't know, I don't think it'll ever be decided.
But I can definitely see where you're coming from. =]
 
Anyone who thinks math is more important than English should put their point across using only numbers.

If they argue their point using English, they are just proving themselves wrong.
 
Math is way more important. Everyone knows how to speak English. Learning about elements of the English language is pointless. To back my point, many many schools in the United Kingdom have dropped mandatory English classes for that same reason, and to allow people to pursue more useful areas of thought.

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Usage has nothing to do with it. You're saying, in essence, that without English class, you'd have no idea. And without math class, you'd be Einstein. The fact is, you need math class to learn math. If you don't know English by the time you get to middle school/high school, you might as well quit.
 
I understand the importance of both math and English. I believe that both should be weighted equally. However, I must say that I disagree with your statement about not needing to know slopes, cosines, etc.

Think of it like this.

In basic math, you learn basic concepts that you will use for the rest of your life such as addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division. After that, we begin to learn less useful things such as slopes, deritives, integration, and other things that are deemed "unusable".

In English, we learn important concepts such as subject verb agreement and other things that we will use everyday. But after that, we also learn about hyperboles, similes, and other things that we will not use just like things in math.

So in retrospect, both subjects are gravely important to American as well as world society, but both teach things that only a small number of people will actually use on a frequent basis.

Also, the fact that we are made to learn these helps us to make logical decisions later in life. Even though we never use them, the fact that we are able to take new information and learn how to manipulate it will help to prepare us for new things to learn down the road.

I make straight A's in math and English (and everything else) but that's just how I feel about it.
 
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