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Linz, Again
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I have seen pastors literally cry while talking about it in church. Yes, it's true, crucifixion is a horrible, awful thing to do to someone.
But this was your god's idea, remember? Yeah, the loving, warm, fuzzy one, the one you worship.
So basically you worship someone that did something so horrible to his own son that you can't even talk about it without getting emotional.
What gives?
No, Green Eyes, I have never had to physically hurt someone because I love someone else. Besides, why did God HAVE to do it? Doesn't he call the shots? Couldn't he have come up with a better way? Come on, now.
RQ: I'm not sure I understand the difference between God doing something and it being God's will that something is done.
John--points well taken. If we chose the "barbaric way" to do it, as you said, then what other ways might have worked? Also: sometimes I ask Christians why they see Jesus's death as a sacrifice since he got to live on and go to Heaven just a short while later. They often answer me by saying that he suffered horribly first. So, if we had chosen a less barbaric way, would it have still been a sacrifice? And if not, then doesn't that mean that it was God's choice after all?
But this was your god's idea, remember? Yeah, the loving, warm, fuzzy one, the one you worship.
So basically you worship someone that did something so horrible to his own son that you can't even talk about it without getting emotional.
What gives?
No, Green Eyes, I have never had to physically hurt someone because I love someone else. Besides, why did God HAVE to do it? Doesn't he call the shots? Couldn't he have come up with a better way? Come on, now.
RQ: I'm not sure I understand the difference between God doing something and it being God's will that something is done.
John--points well taken. If we chose the "barbaric way" to do it, as you said, then what other ways might have worked? Also: sometimes I ask Christians why they see Jesus's death as a sacrifice since he got to live on and go to Heaven just a short while later. They often answer me by saying that he suffered horribly first. So, if we had chosen a less barbaric way, would it have still been a sacrifice? And if not, then doesn't that mean that it was God's choice after all?