Mister Chartreuse
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You claim that the universe is 'too complicated' to exist without a creator. Do you realize that by your own logic, your God (Who must be infinitely more complicated than the universe to have designed it) would require a creator as well?
The only response I've ever heard goes something like "God is the exception. He does not require a creator". I don't think this is a very intelligent retort at all.
Why can't that defense be given for the universe itself instead of the God that supposedly created it? We live in the universe and can empirically observe it's existence, so why must we fabricate some intelligent, mystical and more compex being (That we clearly can't observe empirically) to explain it's existence?
You must realize at this point that all your 'Intelligent Design'' argument does is draw an arbitrary line that divides what can and can't exist without a creator. I find it to be an absurd and practically self defeating argument.
The answers given truly were a treat. 80% quite literally rephrased the refuted example response I gave in the question. Bravo, ladies and gentlemen. Bravo.
The only response I've ever heard goes something like "God is the exception. He does not require a creator". I don't think this is a very intelligent retort at all.
Why can't that defense be given for the universe itself instead of the God that supposedly created it? We live in the universe and can empirically observe it's existence, so why must we fabricate some intelligent, mystical and more compex being (That we clearly can't observe empirically) to explain it's existence?
You must realize at this point that all your 'Intelligent Design'' argument does is draw an arbitrary line that divides what can and can't exist without a creator. I find it to be an absurd and practically self defeating argument.
The answers given truly were a treat. 80% quite literally rephrased the refuted example response I gave in the question. Bravo, ladies and gentlemen. Bravo.