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Why are the Republicans creating an artificial economic meltdown by refusing to...
- Thread starter Texas Joe
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how about because we can't afford them. the only thing artificial about our economic meltdown is that 99% of the problems was caused because the government did more than it should have and is punishing businesses (fact: a CEO of Intel has said that compared to China it would cost roughly $1billion more to open a new factory in the US and that only about 10% of that is due to higher employment costs).
right now we have increased our national debt by 50% in 2 years, that is a $5trillion jump in how much we owe. don't you think there should be a point where we say "we are broke?" to give you some perspective that means that every single citizen (that includes children) each owes over $45,000 (if you just figure taxpayers it is over $120,000). so tell me why should we keep on spending money that we don't have if already our children are being born with almost as much debt as a person makes on average straight out of a 4year college?
right now we have increased our national debt by 50% in 2 years, that is a $5trillion jump in how much we owe. don't you think there should be a point where we say "we are broke?" to give you some perspective that means that every single citizen (that includes children) each owes over $45,000 (if you just figure taxpayers it is over $120,000). so tell me why should we keep on spending money that we don't have if already our children are being born with almost as much debt as a person makes on average straight out of a 4year college?
Mr. Smartypants
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As I've been saying all along, the Republicans care only about being in power. When a Democrat gets elected president, they go into a four year long temper tantrum. They refuse to cooperate with anything the Democrats do, because they don't want the Democratic president to get credit. They want him to fail, and they don't care what damage they might do to the country in the process.
The debt limit was raised SIX TIMES during GW Bush's two terms, TWICE in 2008 alone. The bill the Republicans refused to allow to pass, raising the debt ceiling, was INTRODUCED BY REPUBLICANS! When the Democrats finally said "Okay, we'll go with that," the Republicans changed their minds.
This has happened over and over. Remember GHW Bush tried his entire term to get NAFTA passed, and of course when it didn't pass he blamed 'Democrat obstructionism'. But when Clinton came in he had no trouble getting it passed, and then, of course, the Republicans decided it was just the worst idea ever.
The Paul Ryan proposal to privatize Medicare was deliberately written to be so extreme that there was no chance of it getting even scant Democratic support. Because if it passed, Obama and the Dems would get credit. In fact, the Ryan proposal was so extreme that even most Republicans wouldn't support it.
This is what we're going to be seeing from the Republicans for the next five years at least, through Obama's 2nd term, and longer than that if they don't take back the White House in 2016. It's nothing new--they treated Clinton the same way, and Carter.
The debt limit was raised SIX TIMES during GW Bush's two terms, TWICE in 2008 alone. The bill the Republicans refused to allow to pass, raising the debt ceiling, was INTRODUCED BY REPUBLICANS! When the Democrats finally said "Okay, we'll go with that," the Republicans changed their minds.
This has happened over and over. Remember GHW Bush tried his entire term to get NAFTA passed, and of course when it didn't pass he blamed 'Democrat obstructionism'. But when Clinton came in he had no trouble getting it passed, and then, of course, the Republicans decided it was just the worst idea ever.
The Paul Ryan proposal to privatize Medicare was deliberately written to be so extreme that there was no chance of it getting even scant Democratic support. Because if it passed, Obama and the Dems would get credit. In fact, the Ryan proposal was so extreme that even most Republicans wouldn't support it.
This is what we're going to be seeing from the Republicans for the next five years at least, through Obama's 2nd term, and longer than that if they don't take back the White House in 2016. It's nothing new--they treated Clinton the same way, and Carter.
Bob G...The return of
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What a blatantly biased and uninformed rant. There is nothing artificial about the issue. Raising the debt limit is not going ot make the problem go away, it is only going to make matters worse in the long run. Cut spending first.