Who still thinks GM is operating in the SUV gas guzzling age and do not offer

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vehicles with great mpg? How many of you Americans would like to see the big 3 survive with new management and continue creating American cars with American labor?

Quick Facts:
Toyota Camry Solara – 21/31 mpg
Toyota Avalon – 19/28 mpg
Chevrolet Malibu – 22/33 mpg

Toyota FJ Cruiser – 16/20 mpg
Toyota Highlander – 18/24 mpg
Chevrolet Traverse – 17/24 mpg

Toyota Sequoia – 14/17 mpg
Chevrolet Suburban - 15/20 mpg

Chevrolet Cobalt – 25/37
Toyota Corolla - 26/35 mpg
Honda Civic - 26/34 mpg

Toyota Tunda – 14/18 mpg
Chevrolet Silverado – 15/21 mpg
Would everyone please keep replies related to models currently in production and related to mpg.

Quality is another story. Which GM is turning around with the launch of vehicles such as the Malibu and Cadillac CTS.
 
OMGWTFBBQ? Yahoo answers doesn't need gm fanboys coming on here advertising for them. What is the point of your question? If GM could make a quality car that would last more than 100k miles people might buy them, and BTW Toyota reported 1.5 billion dollar losses this year too. Mileage has nothing to do with sales. No one cares about fuel economy. unless fuel prices are high.
 
Quick fact:

1980's Honda CRX 50/65 mpg.


I won't be impressed by a single American car, until they get close to what Honda has done.

Nevermind that I own several American cars, and several foreign cars. Guess which ones are in the shop almost every other month? The domestics.

Sure, they're good cars. Lots of power. Eat lots of gas. Eat lots of my money. Eat lots of parts. Wait....they were good cars, right?

Forget the Big 3. They've made bad cars for decades, because so many people buy into the "buy american" BS. American labor? Like the Dodge Ram (amongst many vehicles) made in Mexico, at half the price that they list it as MSRP? Sure....

If they want more sales, build a better product. That's the bottom line. The market will go to wherever the best deal is. And the Big 3, do not provide that.

Edit: OH GOOD. They're just NOW turning around quality? Man, they're SO ahead of things. They're about to go bankrupt, so they fixed the quality. Man, I really should buy their products now....

Simple common business logic. The company that makes the best, does the best.

And if you want to claim that American cars are the best....then why are they in trouble? Hmm....

I love your stats, by the way. I looked up several of them, and your numbers are wrong. Take the Cobalt: 22/32. Versus the Corolla: 28/37. I compared both of the lowest models, both 5 speed manuals. Oh, and the Cobalt needs premium, the Corolla does not.

It helps when you post true numbers. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm

2008 numbers only. 2009 vehicles aren't confirmed yet by real world testing. They're just estimates.
 
To the idiot that thinks Hondas still get 40+ mpg: get a clue. Cars today are so laden with safety and emissions equipment that they will NEVER see those high mpg numbers again. I owned an old Datsun B110 that actually got 44mpg. It had NO side beam protection, air bags, anti lock brakes, power windows, 4 wheel disc brakes, AC, power steering or emissions system of any kind. It had seats as primitive as a fold-out beach chair, totally unreliable brakes, totally crap interior and rust every where. I dare say that if ANY automaker would strip a modern vehicle to the bare bones today it would get 75 mpg easy. The only problem with domestic autos is styling -- there as bland and forgetable as stale pudding but will ALL go well over 100,000 miles with little or no mechanical issues. Until the buying public gets over the image of the dark '70's and '80's (the absolute rock bottom of domestic car design, quality and reliability), they will never make a profit.
 
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