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..."socialism" to mean govt. ownership? "Socialism is based upon the common ownership and democratic control of the means of production and exchange, upon production for use as against production for profit, upon the abolition of all classes, all class divisions, class privilege, class rule, upon the production of such abundance that the struggle for material needs is completely eliminated, so that humanity, at last freed from economic exploitation, from oppression, from any form of coercion by a state machine, can devote itself to its fullest intellectual and cultural development. Much can perhaps be added to this definition, but anything less you can call whatever you wish, but it will not be socialism."
Tell me, under the supposed "socialist states", were the workers democratically in control of the means of production? No.
"Socialism by the state" is a misnomer.
The USA govt. and right wing groups appeal to the masses, the masses of idiots...
Venezuela, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, etc. are not communist or socialist.
A )They are either state capitalists(the state running the economy in a capitalist way, acting as one giant corporation),
B) a dictatorship based on Stalinism or Bureaucratic collectivism
C) A degenerated workers state
Tell me, under the supposed "socialist states", were the workers democratically in control of the means of production? No.
"Socialism by the state" is a misnomer.
The USA govt. and right wing groups appeal to the masses, the masses of idiots...
Venezuela, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, etc. are not communist or socialist.
A )They are either state capitalists(the state running the economy in a capitalist way, acting as one giant corporation),
B) a dictatorship based on Stalinism or Bureaucratic collectivism
C) A degenerated workers state