Whats wrong with wanting a bit of government help?

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Republicans often say that democrats are lazy drug smoking welfare receiving people who want the minimum wage to be as high as possible and that is about as true as saying all republicans are gun toting bible loving, in bread cowboys who have no formal education. Ofcorse none of that is true, but hey I can play unfair too. Now back too my question, I dont want a government handout, I am one of the few people who still has a job (i invested in self employment!). But whats wrong with the people asking for a little help. As the old beatles song goes "i get by with a little help with my friends". Ofcorse that was about drugs so i dont think that was a good example.
 
Some has to pay for it.The US is headed to being a huge handout with few working.You need to look up what "little" means. Bill Clinton thought he was just getting a "little" help but Hillary didn't view Monica that way.
 
I love the Beatles. I don't think there's anything wrong with someone needing help and asking for it. You do what you have to do to get by. If someone is truly in need and ask for assistance they should be able to get it. This is America and no one should have to do without. No matter who that person is. There are people who abuse the system, but there are also people who don't. There is no shame in asking for help.
 
Because somebody has to pay for it. I'm not particularly excited about supporting people like the Octu-mom. Who do you think has been paying for her Workers' Comp? Who has paid for her invetro? Who is going to support her 14 kids? You and me, pal, that's who.We should have stop-gaps for people like this all over the place, and if you're excited about feeding this woman's incompetence, than maybe you and she should go start your own country somewhere.
 
Government is not a friend and should exist only to provide for the defense of our country and to mediate in conflicts between states. Let the states decide if they want to be a nanny state or not and we can decide whether we want to live there or not.
 
Well if you look at the state of affairs at this time, the only people getting help are the big guys with big companies with big money. The little guys are loosing their jobs, falling back on their payments and some even loosing their homes. I think the government should have given some sort of aid to the struggling families and single mothers too.
 
There's nothing wrong with it at all. Indeed, in many cases, the nation as a whole suffers when people don't take advantage of government assistance. For instance, someone I went to high school with refuses to apply for federal grant money now that he finally wants to start getting his act together (he's 24). As he explained, he believes it's "immoral" to "take money someone else earned." I replied that it was arguably much more immoral not to use such funds to increase his own productivity and thereby that of the nation, as the returns gained from his education would more than pay for themselves. It's very unfortunate, and I fear that this attitude is quite pervasive. Now, if it were simply a matter of turning down handouts/transfer payments, I could see his point. But it's not - we have Pell grants and student loans because, in the long run, everyone benefits more from education subsidies than they would have otherwise.
 
"Wanting" and NEEDING are 2 completely different thingsIt seems that those who 'want' it, don't need itAnd those who 'need' it (the elderly and disabled), don't want it, but some of them can't find many alternatives.Personally, I have yet to meet a welfare recipient who truly 'needs' itMy mother didn't make much money starting out when I was little, she still found a way to take care of us...She worked and managed the money extremely well, she worked her way up the ladder and makes tons of money now (she started immediately after graduating high school as a secretary at a small credit union, now she's on the board of directors and manages a corporate credit union)...If she can do it alone (NO assistance), so can others...I don't have a lot of money, but I know how to manage it...The difference between a person who chooses welfare and a person who chooses to work, is motivation and determination...No one can tell me otherwise, I've seen it for myself.
 
It starts as a "little" help, but then it becomes "Gimme Gimme Gimme. I don't want to work for a living, I'll just go on the dole and let everyone else take care of me!"
 
There's nothing wrong with asking for help if you really need it.I don't have a problem helping you if you really need it.What I have a problem with is the government forcing me to help by confiscating my money under the threat of prison.
 
I have no problem with people asking for help when they need it. That's what welfare is all about. I have a sister who received some welfare and food stamps for herself and her son after a divorce. Even with child support and her job her income was so little that she was eligible for some assistance. After 1 1/2 yrs she no longer needed it and was grateful it was there to help her.
 
I'm a conservative and I believe government aid is necessary. (something in our constitution) Provisions for the general welfare of citizens is a very complicated and varied. It can compare with all the different cultures and political views that americans have. All of us will never agree about everything.
 
After a lifetime of work and paying hefty taxes, I'm with you! I want to give up and suck off the system like the Dems. Since there will now be more takers than payers under Barry O, I will be joining the new majority!!! It's kind of exciting!Just one question: Will I be required to take drugs and scream "Global Warming"???
 
We already have give you some help it's not bad, it's when we give too much help, but the way Obama is put this it is Medicare he's providing for about everyone that has a low paying job or not working. Which is not giving them crumby house until they work their way about it, we give them the same house we worked our butts of for given them to free. Also on the business turf, they discouraging businesses to exceed, if you become successful in your business you get taxed so much more to give to someone else. Does that seem fair? Especially when you have a business that you own and you are risking your house, car, and finance on the business.
 
Why should my hard earned money go to someone who does not work or have the same work ethic as me.
 
you seem to think the government owns the money. you forget that the taxpayers will be the ones footing the bill.and you can be sure that help from uncle sam always come with strings attached. so while you are getting a little help from obama, it will be me and lots of americans paying for it. we are already in debt up to our ears, how can we ever pay for it?whats wrong with being self suffecient?why depend on others to pay your way?
 
Sir, Im a conservative and I dont have a problem with giving. My wife and I donate plenty to charity. Our problem is with the people who are able bodied, but would rather suck the government tit. Democrats seek to expand these programs even further . This takes money out of the pockets of hard working individuals and businesses. Its clear to many that more programs = more democrat votes. As for your bible comment. Does religion not have a moral core? You and I both know it does. You can be an athiest without being a dick. Dems say they care . All they care about is their votes. Otherwise if they cared they teach people how to fish, rather than give them fish. You know, todays standard of poor. People still have cell phones, microwave ovens and the like. Government housing comes complete with all that stuff these days. At your expense. You say your a business man. You should understand this. Do an experiment. Save every reciept you have for a month. At the end of the month, tally up the all of the taxes. Include your property tax, sales tax, any form of business tax or regulatory tax or fee. Then ask yourself. Were the hell is it going! The Constitution was written to specifically limit the size and scope of government. Our for fathers new we were going to get to big for our own britches, thats why its written that way. Get yourself a copy of The Communist Manifesto. And a copy of The United States Constitution and read it for exactly what it says. This will take you 30 min to complete. Think about all those beatles songs and "happy" peace songs. There has been an anti American movement going on in this country for qiut some time.
 
your question is about wanting government help and that is the point where we start to have a problem with aid programs if you need help and if you get that help i do not have a problem with that. if you are taking the aid money only because you want help when you have other options that is wrong. we must watch out to make sure the programs are not set up by the government to create a cycle of dependancy but rather a base from witch to become more self sufficant.
 
Welfare Welfare Welfare. Do you people realize there is no program where someone can choose to to sit and home and collect a government check - except social security and everyone gets that when they are old enough whether they need it or not.TANF - Temporary Aid to Needy Families replaced welfare back in the 1990's. It cost about 80 billion dollars (less that 0.5% of the fed budget). 80% of the people who get it are Children. The few adults that get it are temporarily sick or disabled.Now there are a lot of programs out there that cost far, far more (Food stamps, medicaid, SSI to name a few) But you can't just decide to take money from those programs, you have to qualify with genuine need.So what most of you are complaining about is feeding children and caring for the sick and disabled. Complain away - but there but for the grace of God go you. Karma's a bi-ach
 
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