What is the estimated pull force of a ceramic magnet?

Me

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like a neodyum (sp?) magnet will have about a 20-30 lbs pull force, what is it for ceramic magnets? (like the black colored ones used to stick stuff to the refrigerator and in elementary schools)

ceramic magnet:

http://www.surplus-electronics-sales.com/Zencart/images/products/213-1003%20Ceramic%20Magnet,%20Round%20Pkg-10.gif

neodium magnet:

http://www.first4magnets.com/ekmps/shops/trainer27/images/f375-3mm-dia-x-4mm-thick-n42-neodymium-magnets-pack-of-25-b12--136-p.gif

thnx
 
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