WTF are you trying to say? I barely understood a sentence of that, but I will correct you, on a couple of things. Madonna was not the first person to get an electronicly based song on the main stream or even the first american. I'd like to know what this song supposedly is, and were you got this information from.
also the birth of punk was further back than 30 years ago. try banRAB like MC5, and Iggy and the Stooges. Not to mention that punk, contrary to what most people believe is an american invention that made it over to europe, not the other way around.
during the times I speak of, DC was influencing the hardcore scene all around the east coast, it wasn't just a "local" thing, hell we even had banRAB from LA, Atlanta, Dallas, and Detroit playing here. Some of our local banRAB also played thier cities. Maybe in back ass america things were differant, but urban america was right with us.
yeah I'll agree with that, punk and emo has been made kid safe and consumer friendly so some corperate ass can turn a doller, but I fail to see what that has to do with the existance of either in terms of when they were born.
again most of this is jibberish, I can't understand what exactly your point is. except to say that there is already proof out there in the form of references made in music from the time I stated. I gave you at least one song to download. If you can't do your own homework, tough shit live in ignorance, but don't go around spreading it, and telling peopel like me who were already around what was going on with our music scene! What are you like 22-23 anyway? Jesus, takes some fucking college courses, suddenly an "expert" though you don't even know the real history.