Currently, we still have 4 recognisable seasons... Summer is hot...Winter is cold.
Sometimes...Summers are a bit hotter than usual. sometimes a bit colder than usual.
We all see the posts here...Oh..its colder today than usual, so there can't be global warming.
What stage of climate reversal do we have to get to, to label it climate change, not just a change in the weather?
@ Dana...you have labelled it climate change...I suggest it is not climate change... Would you care to address the question.
Specifically, not every year has been warmer than the previous...and has climate change only existed since Kyoto?. Even the most strident AGWer will have to acknowledge that a 13 year trend is not grounds for unequivocal proof of a climate change.
You guys are unreal.
The personal attacks only highlight to me the paucity of your arguments.
One in a thousand would have been aware of the existence of the IPCC prior to Kyoto. So if the IPCC was formed in 1988 a mere 7 years before Kyoto, was climate change an issue before 1988? I was around then and have no recollection of it. Of course, that was around the time we were coming out of the New Ice Age scare.
So thanks for nothing, you didn't or couldn't answer a simple question.
Worse still, I'm presented with a graph from Dana that clearly shows no warming since 1997.
I may have to go elsewhere for intelligent debate
OK..it's a bit quiet here, so I'll have another go.
I was irritated as no one went close to actually answering my question. I thought it was a straight forward question, not designed to trick .
I'm sure climate change experts here are aware of periods in the history of this planet when there was ice at the Equator and rainforests at the Poles.
Now THAT is what I call climate change...not a fraction of a degree temperature rise over a century.
Also, anyone can Google to find out the history of recent climate change debate. The point I was making, is that in 1988 (I don't know your age so do not know if you are aware), there was no public debate on climate change. The Cold War was defrosting, the Wall was coming down, no one was considering the end of days through climate change.
Finally...did you want me to give an in depth analysis of your graph?
If you are to convince the general public to take climate change seriously, a "lull" over the last 13 years is not going to help your cause.
Sometimes...Summers are a bit hotter than usual. sometimes a bit colder than usual.
We all see the posts here...Oh..its colder today than usual, so there can't be global warming.
What stage of climate reversal do we have to get to, to label it climate change, not just a change in the weather?
@ Dana...you have labelled it climate change...I suggest it is not climate change... Would you care to address the question.
Specifically, not every year has been warmer than the previous...and has climate change only existed since Kyoto?. Even the most strident AGWer will have to acknowledge that a 13 year trend is not grounds for unequivocal proof of a climate change.
You guys are unreal.
The personal attacks only highlight to me the paucity of your arguments.
One in a thousand would have been aware of the existence of the IPCC prior to Kyoto. So if the IPCC was formed in 1988 a mere 7 years before Kyoto, was climate change an issue before 1988? I was around then and have no recollection of it. Of course, that was around the time we were coming out of the New Ice Age scare.
So thanks for nothing, you didn't or couldn't answer a simple question.
Worse still, I'm presented with a graph from Dana that clearly shows no warming since 1997.
I may have to go elsewhere for intelligent debate
OK..it's a bit quiet here, so I'll have another go.
I was irritated as no one went close to actually answering my question. I thought it was a straight forward question, not designed to trick .
I'm sure climate change experts here are aware of periods in the history of this planet when there was ice at the Equator and rainforests at the Poles.
Now THAT is what I call climate change...not a fraction of a degree temperature rise over a century.
Also, anyone can Google to find out the history of recent climate change debate. The point I was making, is that in 1988 (I don't know your age so do not know if you are aware), there was no public debate on climate change. The Cold War was defrosting, the Wall was coming down, no one was considering the end of days through climate change.
Finally...did you want me to give an in depth analysis of your graph?
If you are to convince the general public to take climate change seriously, a "lull" over the last 13 years is not going to help your cause.