What Are Members Worth? (WAMW)

Jeffre

New member
It seems that one of the center points of this site is the WATW thread. It has been the focus of new members since its creation. I would like to offer up an alternative view. I will call it, "What Are Members Worth?" So many people have gotten fixated on the hierarchy of the trackers that they may have overlooked one major component of the community- the member.

Some people may laugh at this, others may take it to heart. That is entirely up to the individual. Some people need instant gratification while others make self-improvement a life-long goal.

Please think of this as a work in progress. I have based it loosely on Maslow's "Hierarchy of Needs" as I saw fit through my own personal growth and experiences. I hope that this becomes a starting point upon which we can give both new and old members a model to evaluate what they (the individual) brings to a tracker.

If you see areas that should be changed, or if you believe there are different criteria that should be thought of, please feel free to make suggestions. This document is meant to be malleable.

Level 1- The NOOB.
We all start out here in one form or another. Chances are, we don't know anyone, we don't know the rules, and we are eager to see how many invites we can receive. We will beg, borrow, trade, or steal to get them.

Level 2-Someone who has read the rules of the site. Yeah, until you sit down and read the rules, you are eternally a NOOB. Go read them!

Level 3- Someone who UNDERSTANDS the rules of the site. You are probably thinking, "Hey, that's the same as Level 2!" If so, go back and read the rules again. You know, just in case you missed something. We'll wait...no really, go...

Level 4- Someone who ASKS questions. If you do not know something, ASK. It is as simple as that. The alternative is to do something that could get you in trouble, could be acceptable- yet frowned upon. For example TRADING. Ask around. Some people do it, but a lot of people around here have a great disdain for people who do it. Once you have broken the rules of conduct- different than the site rules, you may find yourself socially isolated from many of the people who could help you.

Bottom line- Read some of the posts, get to know what is acceptable, and ASK if you are unsure.

Level 5-Someone who can ANSWER questions. Also, someone who is trustworthy. This is a stage where someone has been around this community for a while. They know the rules. They know what is acceptable. And they know how to act in a way that has earned TRUST from other members. This one is important. At this stage, the member is finally providing important functions for the site. People turn to them for answers and they know him/her well enough to expect that they will act appropriately. Members get a lot of invites at this level. And why shouldn't they? They have earned that kind of trust and respect!

Level 6-People who know "stuff". These are the people you can have fun and engaging conversations with. They are your buddies. They are active in forums that do not have anything to do with invites. These guys could really care less. Chances are, they have tried most of the sites and have focused on a few that "suits them". They discuss sports, games, pron, beer, women (respectfully, of course);) and anything else. These people get stand out because they have done and know "stuff".

Level 7-People who are either well educated or well-rounded. Real-life experiences! Sometimes people get tired of talking about sports, games,etc. Eventually, people want to have "serious" discussions. For this, you can either educate yourself (read tons and tons of books, wikipedia does not count) :noes: or go to school. At this level, bullshitters get spotted and chewed up. Know your stuff and you will be very welcome in these circles. Get in over you head, and you will now it REAL QUICK! This is as close to an academic "street fight" as you will ever come. Come prepared!

Level 8-People who strengthen the community. There are some people who can do everything below this and still have time and energy to make sure the community is a thriving entity. These people have earned a lot of respect and they deserve it. They might be moderators, they might just be setting good examples for other members to follow. They create thought-provoking discussions and bring people together.

Level 9-People with special skills used for community good. These are the coders, the graphic designers, the security experts- people who make the sites and communities possible for the rest of us. Most of these people have donated their time and skills. They are most likely professionals who believe in the community. They are rare gems and we most likely don't even know who they are.

Level 10a-The site owners. Someone came up with the idea for the site and made it grow. They did not do this alone, but it would not have happened without them. They are the "Ring Master".

Level 10b- Hot chicks who do exclusive webcam shows for the site members. This is the only "free pass" straight to the top. Just like IRL, if you are a hot chick who is willing to get naked, you probably don't need to offer anything else to the site. Anyone who says a negative word about you will be banned before they finish pressing [ENTER]. Generally, you are loved by everyone anyway.:yup:

Now it is up to you, FST. What needs to be changed, added, or removed. Or we can scrap this whole thing...:fst:
 
i don't want to be 10b (hot chick) tho :ermm:

Don't undersell yourself, ROD3NT. Perhaps I am giving too much weight to the old Bugs Bunny cartoons, but he made a pretty hot girl bunny. :w00t: I'm thinking the same would apply for chipmunks. :naughty:
 
Thank you for all of the positive and critical comments! This is exactly what I was hoping for!

I will try to respond the the posts on the page:

Rart- When it comes to the sharing of information (all forms) I make no apologies for being an idealist. I know that there will never be a community as strong as the one that I in-vision, but there is absolutely no harm in making posts like this to give members something to think about (if they care) and hopefully strengthen the community a bit.

zip- Some ideas cannot be expressed in 5 words or less. If people want to improve themselves (here and elsewhere) they are going to have to read at some point in their lives. I can only do my best- it is up to the individual and the community to decide if I have written something of interest or not.

ROD3NT- I think most of us fall into that category (a bit of everything). We can choose what areas we concentrate on improving, though.

schtuka- I see what you are saying, but as you "reach the top" of anything, it gets lonelier. I believe that is an important fact. It is also why people tend to seek out others with those same limited skills an abilities. While a lot of the people who have excelled at something (academic, sports, business, etc) enjoy teaching to people "on their way up", sometimes it is necessary to find people who can still challenge you- or even give you a good beat-down occasionally. And they appreciate the same.

IdolEyes- And we are VERY lucky to have you!

TheFox- Thanks, I believe we see things in a VERY similar manner.

sez- Very true. Are the people who get into these "stratified" positions through people they know, really a value to that community, or are they just there? While some may be able to "sneak in" I am talking about the people who really are an active and beneficial member of the community. You will have "collectors" and dead-weight anywhere.

Thanks, Lub! Very happy you enjoyed it. :D
 
This post is not flame or anything of the sort. I'm curious and drunk enough to share something private. I've donated over $1000 to several trackers this year. Is that worth something? Does that make me a good member?
 
And how will you know "People who know "stuff"" ?!
99% of level 7, 8, 9 and 10 you will never find in here.
And "Ring Masters" are not always as brilliant as you think.

Basically what i see here is:
lvl 7 - VIP
lvl 8 - moderator, FLS
lvl 9 - coders, designers
lvl 10 - site owners/sysops
 
This post is not flame or anything of the sort. I'm curious and drunk enough to share something private. I've donated over $1000 to several trackers this year. Is that worth something? Does that make me a good member?

for P2L and P2I sites.. u r the best possible member..ever!
/me appreciates your actions in helping trackers sustain themselves. :happy:
 
I don't know what he looks like now but a couple of years ago R0D3NT looks really cute. I believe he was 16 but he looked 14. *giggles*

So you're 18 now R0D3NT? Time flies by.
 
To get people to stop thinking about how great it would be to be part of one of the "elite" trackers and start thinking about what they actually bring to this community. Some will care, others won't.

I thought it would at least give people something to think about and maybe do a self-assessment. Would they even fit in to one of these "elite" sites if given "their dream" invite?

I can assure you traders looked inside this thread, saw a huge wall of text, and proceeded to open a trade thread looking something like "NEEd TTC HaZ MiNiNoVa".

And the group who relies on the WTAW thread will not change their views, because they realize you can't trade or collect with WMAW. :huh:
 
realityhd,

1. Yes, I tried to use the "level" system that people are (overly) familiar with.
2. I am afraid you are (possibly) correct. You never know the background of the person you are engaging. They could be brilliant, they could just be someone with an opinion.
3. That is why I have asked for the community's help. A lot of new members come here an get fixated on becoming "elite". I am trying to give people who want to be an integral part of the community a road map. I believe it will be beneficial for individuals (who care) to ask themselves what they bring to the table.
4. I have only been here for about 4 months. I have even referred to myself recently as a NOOB. What I meant by the "academic street fight" was that there are not the same rules of conduct that you would have in an academic environment. No professor to bail you out; no knowledge if your "opponent" is a history buff who watched the Discovery Channel a lot, or someone with a PhD.
5. :unsure:
 
Can a bunny and a squirrel reproduce?

What would the oRABpring be called?

Bunnel, or maybe squinny (I like the second one best).

Squirrel may not be a 10b), but I bet his Squinny will be. :lol:
 
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