warn winches are good but WAY over priced. go with a mile marker, they are cheaper ,and still very reliable. plus they usually have a "buy one, and get this" thing type sell!!! when i bought my 8k pound winch, i got an atv winch for free with it. so i bolted it to the floor in the garage and now its used as an engine hoist/ hoist-a-top. they usually have the best deals.