Violent "peace" marchers

Violent "peace" marchers

Oh believe me, I have done my homework and believe me I do know what I'm talking about. Obviously you still haven't seen my side of the argument. What I'm trying to say is that when you bad mouth Bush it's like badmouthing the rest of America because he CURRENTLY IS the president and whether any one person likes it or not he does represent America. Having a war in Iraq is nothing that deserves impeachment unlike "taking half of everyone
 
What you are describing yotaka, and no offense here, is blind leading the blind. The president does directly affect us, even if it's not as obvious as taxing the internet, it's pretty damn obvious. I wouldn't choose to be blind to what the president or any powerhead is doing, because it may not always be the right thing. And if you choose to abide by all the rules you are given, your society would be stagnant, and it would never improve, leaving someone as powerful as the president or even mayor, perhaps to walk all over you.
 
Yes Yes Yes I see what your trying to say Pachyderm but obviously my point is not getting accross to you people. Aw well, I guess that's why I don't get involved in politics (not that I activly can mind you, I'm under 18). But whatever, arguing my point has become, well, pointless. Maybe someday you people will understand what I mean. I resign from ever posting about politics on wtf.com ever again peeps. Not that you all give a fuck, but wtvr. Thanks for all of your opinions. Peace out :cool:
 
I never said I didn't respect your opinion. I just think it's vastly unfounded, and bogus. You have every right to have your opinion.

Please see your quote above, this is exactly what I thought you would respond with, and it makes my point to the letter. Especially the part about "that would absolutely be directly affecting us ". This is what I'm referring to. People are willing to put up with the president and other officials lying to us and practicing deception, as long as it does not (in your own words) affect us directly. You're willing to back him, unless you personally have to suffer.

Thank you for making my point for me. I'm glad you agree.



I fail to see how Bush supporters can still support him as I once did, back when he first took office. I have learned by watching his actions, and hard evidence of his administration's wrong doing. I can't see why his remaining supporters not only close their eyes to the facts, but call us Unamerican for not supporting him.
It's all a mentallity that his administration has created. At no other time that I can remember, has anyone been called UnAmerican for dislikeing the way a president behaves, or not supporting his actions. (I've been alive to see 7 Presidents. How 'bout you?)

I am really and truely mourning for our country, and what Bush has done to us.
 
MaxPower, I would give you a point, but I can't give you another one. I completely agree with you. It's never too late or not an option to change your mind about politics. In the beginning, I supported the war on terrorism but soon after I learned more things about it. I think Yotaka just hasn't learned enough to have a totally evolved opinion, not that anyone else, yours or possibly mine might be more evolved. I also think that Yotaka is directly affected by his parents opinions, because I don't know who he would be talking to about these things at his age. Anyway, good points, MaxPower.
 
You're right, I changed my mind.
As I said, I supported Bush in the beginning (not that I voted for him, just figured I'd give him a chance).
But, that's the fantastic thing about Human beings; we have the capacity to learn quickly from our mistakes.
 
1) I will assume your definition of "turning your back on America" to bean "to be un-patriotic."



2) you called the "un-patriotism" above "treason."



it sounds to me more like you have not done your homework.

~ dan ~
 
Damn Democrats, YOu just gotta have faith. Like when you drink a bottle of water you will live till 100. Bush is doing this for a reason. All those commercials you see is propaganda cause Democrats thought it was pointless to go to war. Well its war when they take a plane and ram it into a building all in the name of there god allah. Some religion i bet. They have there rally's saying that america is bad but start bitching when where late on a food drop. They say we don't do enough, as if we piss gold. you go to the national debt website http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/ as of 8:49 arizona time where in debt "7,286,604,460,294.22" thats alot of fucking money. i say fuck them all and america just close its world wide help organization. We have helped everyone on the fucking planet, yet we still get pissed on and cursed at. If we where to do that we put every other country out of business. cuase its us that pay there shit not them not there citizens but american citizens. TO hell with them all, im glad we like to help but why? mostly for 'PR' if if wasn't for us Most of Europe would be speaking German. thats just me. But this not a Bush's problem nor a republican problem this America and where just too damn generous and we need to stop, and just worry about us for 10years and let the world work out its own problems. john Kerry is a little bitch!!!!

"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun regestration. our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will foloow our lead into te future!"-Adolf Hitler(in his 1935 speech we all know what happens in thenext year)

if ya don't know what that means, its what the democrats are trying to do to us. Guns dont kill people, People kill people. History seems to always repeat it self.
 
Part of what America stands for is to generate peace through out the world, or at least that's what we are told. We are a super power and the leader of technology, medical and technological research, the largest and most powerful standing military, and we have the ability to help others when in need. What you aren't understanding is that right now, Bush is trying convince the world that we are helping middle eastern countries by liberating them, building their military, putting up government buildings including schools and we are enabling woman to learn in those countries. But that's just a side note to what Bush is really doing; It's what you get when Politicians are involved in war. It's money and oil and profits. It is to benefit the industries that Bush and his partners have invested in. There is more than meets the eye, and a lot of people don't allow themselves to think that far, even though it is pretty aparent. Sometimes people don't understand is that "democrat", "republican", "green", "other" are just all labels that people most identify with. It is everyones problem when we go into war, or we go into debt, or any national problem.
Like when you drink a bottle of water you will live till 100 This isn't faith, this is hopefulness. and Bush is doing this for a reason. It wasn't pointless to go to war, because the point was going for oil and money. What is pointless, are the 100s of American and 1000s of iraqi deaths. What democrats and non-supporters argue is that we have spent too long there without any real justification. It's hard to argue that another's life & religion are stupid when you don't live in their culture or society. I know it does not seem humain to you or to many others for that matter, but if someone who believed differently from us (and they had the power) came in and blasted our country because our believes are dumb, I bet you would be pretty pissed off. The war did not start with the planes, it was just intensified and continued with 9/11. 'Democrat' Clinton had something like a $3 billion dollar and surplus 'republican' Bush now has the deficit you mention, so it seems that both sides are perpetuating the continual war we are experiencing.
But this not a Bush's problem nor a republican problem I believe you have just contradicted yourself by mentioning the deficit.
 
Cutter, I assume you know that the Bush Administration knew damn well that 9/11 was going to happen, and let it happen anyway so they could continue with their original plans (Going into Iraq?). There have been documents found in the Oval Office that show that Bush was planning for Iraq to happen. I don't wan't to hear how Iraq had weapons of mass destruction...they didn't. They had some seran and about two small missles, but they were what Saddam forgot to destroy. Saddam had no links to Al-Quaeda, even if you watch TV interviews Richard Clarke and the head of the CIA kept telling Bush that there were no links to Al-Quaeda. He said, "No, if we do Afghanistan we have to do Iraq too." He is extremely corrupt, and I can't wait till he gets voted out of office.
 
Iraq has been hapening for over 20 years. When the country's goverment brings all its peasants within 3 miles of where he lives to make sure we don't bomb him , for we will kill innocent lives. Still if we didn't "step" in prolly just turn into another post cold war russia where it is pure anarchy. Then the millita's and gangs would rule the streets.

Even if america is a super power, don'tmean shit. Where too kind for our own good.
John Kerry is a little BITCH!

Why did saddam kill all his wive's? every time he spread there legs he saw Bush. hehehe
 
You also must forget the that other 'republican' Bush put Saddam in power. Watch the democratic convention, you'll learn more about Kerry because you probably aren't very aware of where he stands.
 
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