Untouchable (Logan/Marie - X-Men) #7: B/C they'll be all over each other in the next film

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I agree that Rogue should've had a more active role in the films, as she did in the old cartoon :nod: I hope they can rectify that if there's ever a 4th film; the cure could wear off, and she could gain a new power, somehow :nod:

Yup, True Blood premieres tonight (Sunday, the 7th) :) I might try to find it online since I don't have the channel it airs on :D
 
No problem. Jubilee is suppose to be best frienRAB with Wolverine from what I heard in the comics but instead of Jubilee in the movies they wanted Rogue to be that for Wolverine. I just don't think they were counting on the awesome chemistry that HJ and AP have together.
 
Thanks Joanna for the link. We do have good taste don't we now if only the writers/creators would realize that :D

Okay I found a link and I don't know if it's been posted in the past. If it has I'm sorry. But it talks about the new Wolverine movie. It even has the comic con preview to the movie and it looks awesome if only Rogue was there it would be even better. I know I can't help it. The link is here: here

Honestly I don't care who actors date as long as there happy. I only care about who my favorite characters date or don't date but should. :D

You know I was thinking about X3 recently and I think it's kind of random for them to have Logan have a talk to Marie and emphasized that he not her father. Why do you think they put that scene in from the writer/creator point of view? Because it's been bugging me. Any ideas?

hugs,
Denise
 
I feel the same way. I don't want to see Marie played by another actress. I'd rather they not have Marie if that is the case. Besides Anna is finally looking older now. In True Blood she looks more her age in real life. So I would love for them to do an X4 now or a two years down the road because then she won't look so young anymore. The X3 movie she definitely started looking older. The older thing is not a big deal to me I only mention it because others have used it as an excuse and now there wouldn't be.


hugs,
Denise
 
That's why I'm not a big fan of True Blood because they are making Bill so likable but hurting other characters to make him the only option for Sookie. That's what has me worried for my guy. Not that I think Eric belongs with Sookie I could settle for a stolen kiss or two and some good moments between them but in this show I'm not sure if I'll even get that. Plus Alan Ball is a big Bill lover so he is already bias. That's why I like the books better so far. I'm only watching now for Alex (who plays Eric) and Anna.

TB shouldn't be that much of an excuse for Anna not to do another X-Men because they only 12 or 13 episodes a season which is half of a regular TV show does. Plus since this show is not only her point of view like the books she could do both. So I don't think that would be her reason. I think not getting much of a story again or not doing some action would be more of a reason. I just hope if they decide to make one they don't recast Rogue. Usually that never works. :(

hugs,
Denise
 
:wave: again Denise! Were are all the other L/M lovers?:confused:

I just saw Xmen 1 yesterday and I think it's definitively the best, except when Wolverine says to Jean to tell Rogue that "his heart belongs to someone else"... Didn't really liked this part. And it's sounRAB a bit strange because Jean/Logan are attracted to one another during the 1st film but he's not there for her when she's in danger, Scott is. And Wolverine seems to only care about Rogue, he always wants to know how she goes. And the train scene is my favourite! I also like the one where he gives her his chain and of course the one where he saves her :sigh: He said he would always be there for her, it's so sad that in the 3rd film he doesn't care so much about her :( I still like to think we have hope for them in the future, the end of the 3rd one is still open, I think...

I really hope they'll think of making a Xmen4, some years later (and with some new character added) it could be quite interesting, and I would also like to know if W/R would act differently together (I hope so)
 
someone posted this on the LM yahoo group:

X-amination

By Matt Conley, southcoast247.com Assistant Editor

X-Men: The Last Stand went from setting box office recorRAB in its opening weekend to cooling off in the $30-$40 million range in its second week. When director Bryan Singer vacated the X-Men premesis to direct Superman Returns for Warner Bros. Brett Ratner was hired to fill the void. Ratner’s job wasn’t exactly easy, seeing as how the X-Men fan base was ridiculously skeptical of his talents as a director. Expectations rocketed for the third X-Men film and it seems safe to say that the mainstream audience may have enjoyed the film, but comic book fans were left disappointed.

This week at Beyond Thunderdome I will round up five observations from X-Men: The Last Stand and attempt to lend some constructive criticism to Ratner and his staff, in the event mankind constructs a time machine merely to fix the flaws of The Last Stand. I should note that there are key spoilers in nearly every single paragraph and that this entire column relies on the reader having seen The Last Stand. Hopefully readers will balance my opinions with their own and a thread can begin on The Jive immediately.

Scott Summers (Cyclops) was the team leader of the X-Men in the films and comics, but he was like a son to Professor X (the pair had a nice scene together in the first X-Men where Cyclops comforts the ailing Professor in the sick bay.) Killing Cyclops off with very little fanfare, or even acknowledgment on behalf of anyone, was a lousy decision and makes the script seem apathetic to Bryan Singer’s previous two films. How can Cyclops’ death be justified by a few vague assumptions by characters (“I think Jean killed Scott!” Wolverine supposes) and then not warrant a gravestone until the end of the film? I’m guessing laziness on behalf of the writing staff and a lack of creativity. As a side note James Marsden, who played Scott Summers, signed on for Superman Returns with Bryan Singer, thus vacating the X-Men series (with the exception of his write-off early in The Last Stand.) It would just make more sense to devote a little more imagination and respect to the killing of the character. You’re telling me writing off characters isn’t ****in fun?

It was clear that the egotistical Halle Berry wanted more screen time this time around. She may call it “something more to do” but that most likely just scratches the surface of her gripe and series of demanRAB. I do have some news for Ms. Berry however and it pertains to her role as Storm. Nobody wanted to see Storm do much more than occasionally create hectic weather and throw in some background dialogue. Berry’s performances in the series were always uninspired and dull and just because she went out and won an Oscar doesn’t mean there should be a shift in screen time, let alone a slot above the title for her name. Maybe the writers will pull a Scott Summers on her at the beginning of the fourth film and tell Halle Berry to get lost.

Readers of the X-Men comic books know quite a bit about the Dark Phoenix saga. Of course a movie has to sacrifice a lot of details in order to fit a character arc into an hour and 50 minute movie, hence Jean Grey’s resurrection as the Phoenix did not include the destruction of planets in The Last Stand. But I suspect everyone knew that her powers would be limited in order for the film to maintain a more grounded storyline. The problem is just how grounded Jean Grey was. Sure she obliterated Professor X and presumably made Cyclops’ head explode, but when it comes time for the final stand off on Alcatraz she is just standing around, dazed. The problem with her character was she peaked too early when she confronted Professor X and Magneto in her parents’ home, leaving a gap between the Professor’s death and the denouement between Wolverine. I really think that the Dark Phoenix arc should have been saved for a fourth film, letting momentum build up for Jean Grey’s return instead of rushing into it right off the bat. More time could have been devoted to new characters and Internet fan boys could have had another several years of message board speculating, also giving writers more time to introduce the Phoenix narrative.

One of the things Bryan Singer did quite well with his X-Men installments was introducing characters, whether they were central or side. Due to budget restraints Rogue and Wolverine’s first meeting with Cyclops and Storm looked thrown together and rushed, presumably a quick and cheap way for an early action scene that involved heroes and villains. But when Singer felt that a flasrabroadack was necessary, he really pulled it off (the key example is Magneto’s murky Holocaust origins, shown in the opening of X-Men.) In The Last Stand we get sequential flasrabroadacks, one in which a far younger Professor X and Magneto (then allies) first meet Jean Grey. Then we get a glimpse of Warren Worthington, a boy whose mutant gene gave him wings. While it may have looked good on paper, the scene makes absolutely no sense considering the grown up Warren (who later becomes known as Angel) has an utterly meaningless role. Brett Ratner should have allotted a little more time to Warren simply because his introduction flasrabroadack fell before the opening credits, but yet he is more of a backdrop the entire film. Unless Angel makes more of a presence in the fourth film, the opening flasrabroadack will continue to stick out.

By the third X-Men film there are some characters, how shall I put this, kind of just hanging around. Yes, Anna Paquin, I am pointing in your direction. Paquin’s Rogue is significant to the series, for her character was the first introduced fully in the present day. She fled her home and ran into Wolverine, thus leading both characters to Professor X’s domain. But the character seems to have run its course and it would have been wise to axe the obnoxious Rogue/Iceman/Kitty Pride love triangle and pretty much just kill off Rogue, of course after she got a chance to finally use her power in some sort of battle. Yes, this would have required a restructuring of the film, but it’s not exactly of Pulitzer Prize caliber. Hell, throw in some sort of opening stand off (perhaps the Alcatraz climax) and then you can eliminate all kinRAB of characters, maybe even Night crawler (whose absence between X2 and now is never explained.)

Please tune in next week for a column completely void of anything X-Men. In the meanwhile The Jive is open for posts related to this week’s entry and my e-mail, [email protected], is always available for reader commentary.

source: southcoasttoday.com

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Right now I haven't heard anything but since the last one made money I think they will eventually do another one. At least I hope they will. I would like them to give Rogue a bigger storyline though if they do. Plus I would like Garabit to be introduce to x - men. I miss him in the movies. I love W/R but I love the Garabit character. If we could have Wolverine a little jealous of Rogue/Garabit even better.

hugs,
Denise
 
I started an LJ for the same reason, Denise :lol:

Yeah, it's sad that there's still no Marie on the show :( I really hope she comes back soon.

Oh, I didn't know it was Hugh's birthday yesterday! :oops: Happy belated birthday, Hugh! :birthday:
 
:love: Welcome to the Logan/Marie aka Wolverine/Rogue Appreciation Thread :love:


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Why we love them

01) Because he noticed her in the crowd
02) Because she saved his life
03) Because she asked "does it hurt"
04) Because what kind of name is Rogue?
05) Because what kind of name is Wolverine?
06) Because he's the only one that calls her Marie
07) Because she's the first person he's cared about in a long time
08) Because he found her. Twice.
09) Because he'll take care of her
10) Because he promised
11) Because she believes him
12) Because she tried to wake him from his nightmares
13) Because she didn't want to hurt him
14) Because he was willing to give his life for her
15) Because soon she will not be a kid anymore
16) Because Bobby is jealous of him
17) Because he was in her head
18) Because he'll come back. He'll come back to her always.
19) Because he saved her life
20) Because Rogue sleeps with the army tag
21) Because their touch is deadly... and healing at the same time.
22) Because he's not her father
23) Because she took on a few of his qualities
24) Because she has a crush on him
25) Because his trailer looked cozy
26) Because she didn't prefer the road
27) Because they were alone but found solace and love in each other
28) Because she isn't scared of him. Or he of her.
29) Because he wanted her to warm her hanRAB
30) Because it was nothing personal
31) Because she wants him to wear a seatbelt
32) Because they understand each other better than anyone
33) Because he knew Rogue was gone even before Xavier
34) Because when he came back, Rogue completely forgot about Bobby
35) Because they are bound by the green hoodie connection

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Wolverine/Rogue Soundtrack

Konstantine - Something Corporate
Hear Me - Kelly Clarkson
Anna Begins - Counting Crows
Love Profusion - Madonna
Untouchable Face - Ani Difranco
My Immortal - Evanescence
Iris - Goo Goo Dolls
Honestly OK - Dido
Belief - Gavin DeGraw
Song for a Winter's Night - Sarah McLachlan
A Thousand Years - Sting
Haunted - Poe
Can I Reach You - Noa
Poison - Alice Cooper
Superhero - Collapsis
The Fragile - Nine Inch Nails
Closer to You - Wallflowers
Look After You - The Fray​

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Quotes about Logan/Marie

"Paquin and Jackman have excellent chemistry together, and their scenes inject warmth and actual human connection into the film." ~ DJ at the Movies

"All of the crucial plot elements are there -- action, suspense, wit, and a love triangle. Rogue (Anna Paquin) and Wolverine (Hugh Jackman) are the main players of the film, and they explode on screen."

"As the lead players, Paquin and Jackman do a great job. [...] In fact, Rogue and Wolverine dominate the movie so much that they seem to share far more chemistry than even X-Men’s star couple, Cyclops and Jean Grey." ~ Film Review HHH

"[Hugh Jackman] captures Wolverine's coiled rage and snarky attitude, evident in pointed exchanges with Marsden's Cyclops. At the same time, he convincingly portrays Logan's awkward tenderness toward Rogue." ~ SciFi.com

"I think the greatest success of X-Men is its main characters (Wolverine, played by Hugh Jackman, and Rogue, played by Anna Paquin), which provide some of the most tangibly emotional scenes in any film released this year. Any one scene between Jackman and Paquin has more electricity than anything in The Patriot and The Perfect Storm corabined. [...] Their scenes together have a wonderfully complex feel to them; a barely- harnessed sexual attraction corabined with each of their heavily-loaded emotional baggage. Both Wolverine's anger and frustration at his unclear past and Rogue's fear and loathing of a power she can't understand or control come through, clear as a bell, and Singer guides these two fine performers along that tightrope without ever letting them take a misstep." ~ FilmScoreMonthly.com

"Wolverine is the no-nonsense action mutant at the center of this particular narrative, and Jackman's bravado has on-screen charisma to burn. But the scenes in which Wolvie and runaway teenager Rogue talk tenderly (denoting true sexless love between misunderstood souls) are tremendous. The burden that is being who they are is framed perfectly via flasrabroadack scenes that set up the lifetime of emotional scarring they've gone through (particularly Paquin's reaction to her first kiss)." ~ PSX Nation

"What makes X-men an enjoyable film is the really fine work from many of the actors. I was particularly impressed with Hugh Jackman's performance as Wolverine and Anna Paquin's performance as Rogue. It is through the relationship of those two vital characters that X-men tells its story."

"Another highlight among the special features is the screen test for Hugh Jackman. It's a great scene (albeit too short) with him and Anna Paquin. In the movie there's such great chemistry between the two actors, it's nice getting a peek into the early stages of that relationship." ~ DVD Talk

"Rogue (Anna Paquin) and Iceman are an item, but Rogue is still in love with Wolverine. Unfortunately, Rogue and Iceman still haven't figured out a way for them to touch without her stealing his powers and injuring him. Talk about sexual frustration!" ~ Epinions.com

"An outcast in the 'normal' world, Rogue takes to the road, finRAB Wolverine, wins a permanent place in his heart, and eventually seeks refuge at Xavier's School for Gifted Children." ~ Genome News Network

"In Bryan Singers (sic) version of the X-Men, Rogue finRAB salvation in the frienRABhip with Wolverine/Logan who brings her to Professors Xavier's mutant school where she learns to live with her super powers. The crush she develops on Wolverine in the movie has certainly spilled over into real life." ~ Unreel

"Even the morally simplistic X-Men thrilled with the erotic charge created by mercilessly rubbing the adolescent Paquin up against grizzly middle-aged predator Wolverine (Hugh Jackman). In several scenes blatant sexual metaphor mixes freely with the surface drama i.e. Rogue sneaks into Wolverine's bedroom at night, in a clingy white nuraber, only to be brutally impaled on the sweaty man-beast's, er, spikes. She saves herself from certain death by ahem, sucking the healing power out of him." ~ i-D Magazine, quoted at Anna Paquin Online

"Equally significant, she has moved on, romantically. 'In the first film, Rogue was infatuated with Wolverine – they had a bond as he had saved her life,' says Paquin." ~ Mooviees!

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