To anyone who is on suboxone

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the dr told me that the naloxone is there so people wont shoot it up; that is what i was told keep me posted.

i didnt have pain just got sick real bad. nodded couldnt sleep etc. that was when i took 4mg then 4mg again 8mg total in the first day. that was suboxone. the dr changed me to subutex after that and took me down to 4mg aday. but that was after taking suboxone for 8 days.

let me know what dr says
 
Ok more questions 'cause I did not sleep well last night and feel real weird. I have taken a total of 4mg since 7:45 last night. I know that I need to find the lowest but best dose for me. I am feeling sooo tired and the withdrawal feelings I had before I took the sub are better. I don't know if I need another 2mg to help me feel better. My muscles are incredibly sore, I can't sleep and sort of feel really out of it. I've heard others say that if they get that "high" feeling they may be on too much. I don't really have the "high" feeling, I just feel like crap and am falling asleep for like two minutes at a time. Should I take the other like 1-2mg?:confused:
 
i dont know nanny. that was, is, my problem also. just stick with what the dr says.

my guess your nodding out and it is too much but who the heck knows. i am still taking 2mg twice aday that is lower than the 4mg twice aday the dr had me on.

i feel a little better, but i am thinking the 8mg he had me on was way to much and i am withdrawing from that. this is the first morning i havent thrown up. but i have diareaah now lol.

i will take this dose untill monday and see how I feel.

and like you i feel weird. hard to explaine. Keep us informed. your the first person who has described what i felt.

your body may have to get used to the sub. i dont think yu need more but if your dr gives yu more LET ME KNOW HOW IT WORKS.

I started on the third of may. ten days on the 4mg twice aday. that was pretty bad those days. now I am on my third day with 2mg twice aday . feel better than yesterday
 
Hi Captnanny,

Jolo is right - Naloxone is a component of Suboxone, and is there to stop addicts from abusing it. If Suboxone is abused, it will throw the addict into the worst withdrawal they could ever imagine.

What did the doctor say? I think perhaps, you aren't taking enough Sub (just my opinion).

I hope it gets better for you. Like I said to Jolo, Sub is supposed to make you feel better, not worse.

Good luck :)

emsmom
 
I am in a panic right now. I have not been on this board for about two years but I am addicted vicodan. I do have chronic pain but have really enjoyed my vicodan. I saw the suboxone doctor today and took my last vicodan at
11:30. He said to meet with him at 1:00 tomorrow for my first dose.
I told him that I nanny tomorrow from 6:30am until 5:30 pm and he said that should not be a problem. Now I have heard that the first day is the hardest and that most people take the day off. I am scared because I will have to take the six year old boy to my visit. Is this a good idea or should I call in sick? Please give me advice as I am very scared and nervous and worried.
Usually I would call in sick but because of all my surgeries I am scared I will get fired. Now that's probably not the case but if anyone thinks it is manageable please let me know ASAP.
 
Thanks Jolo,
I will not quit, I see him again tomorrow and am going to tell him everything as well as show him how I cut the pills in fourths. He did tell me over the phone that if I felt bad, take more after an hour until I feel better. But he also said to remeraber that "less is more." So I think since we are just trying to find the right dose for me he gave me 8mg tabs. He advised me not to take the whole pill. We broke the pill in half and then half again.
I made it through the night last night but was up very early. Not unusual for me when I'm starting a new medication. I still feel like every move I make gives me a throbbing headach though. I'm probably a little dehydrated though.
I bet this post is now becoming like the other "sick from sub" Post.
Jolo and Emsmom, if you have anymore suggestions please let me know.
Emsmom, where have you been?
 
Thanks Jolo,
I decided not to take more for a while right now. My body does need to adjust and even though the doc said I may need around 15-16mg, that might not be true. I don't have dilated pupils so I am not in withdrawal. I just am so tired but can't fall asleep for more than what I said last time. I was also taking clonidine which made me very drowsy and tired. That is probably some it as well. I think tomorrow, when I can take the proper dosing in the morning, I will know more about how much I need. At least I don't have to work today.
 
emsmom if she is like i was she wont be able to post for a while.

today is the first day of the last twelve that i didnt throw up. all i have had all day is 2mg. taking the other 2mg now and hopefully i will sleep till 5or six and start the new day off with 2mg.

last nite i got up at one and had to take a 1/2 mg then started the day at 8am with 2mg.

didnt feel to bad today; hopefully tommorow will be better. I thnk the dr gave me way to much for as little lortab i was taking. only 30mg aday and that was 10 mg every six hrs.

i think i have been withdrawing from the 8mg since monday when i started on 4mg aday
 
nanny let me know if you take more and it makes you feel better. i keep thinking i need more but really have no clue. I keep hoping i am getting better each day i am on 2mg twice aday.

I was only taking 30mg of lortab aday for about 8months. i went into my drs about another pain in my elbow, he said i should be on sub because it wont make you hi and you wont want to up your lortab


I wasnt feeling that good on the lortab anyway, so i do not have any craving
but he could have been right i may have up my dosage untill it was to late
 
Hey Jolo and Emsmom,
I did just take the other 2mg which makes my total 4mg today. Last night I took 4 and as the day has gone on I started feeling much worse than when I posted. I hope this helps some, it has only been five minutes. I am worried because my prescription say subutex, not bupe and naloxone. I thought suboxone had both, but subutex doesn't? My pain is almost an 8. That is another reason I took the other two mg. I don't want to slip and take a norco or anything, not that I have any. The thought did cross my mind because the pain is bad. If I have subutex, is that also the part that is a pain killer? I'm calling the doc's office now.
 
nanny today , sunday, is the first day i woke up without the "clouRAB" fogging whatever feeling in my head. I am starting to feel good again. It might not take you as long since you didnt take 8mg for as long as i did.

I think the dr wanted me to take more because he thought itwas with drawels from lortab i was feeling, but it was way to much sub in the beginning is why i was sick. kind of like overdose ing probably.

anyway I think it is going to be worth it. I do not have that fugged up feeling like i hd from the lortabs when i wake up, mind is clear.

Like i said in my other reply I may have to take a 1/2 mg at six hrs. I am taking 2mg in the morning and 12 hrs later takeing the other 2mg. = 4mg every 24hrs.

the only problem i am still having is the dieareaa.
 
Hey all,
I talked to the doc yesterday and he told me to take 2mg, not less like I did in the morning and thought I was not taking enough. I took 8mg throughout the day yesterday. Around 4:30 this morning I started throwing up and didn't stop until 11:30. It was horrible. I have only taken four mg, today and am just starting to feel a little better. If I don't get sick tonight I will start tomorrow trying 2 and 2. If I need to in the middle of the day I may take another 2. I think I was doing the smaller doses too close together. I still have hope but can't and don't want to feel this way on it long term. I know everyone is different and Jolo, it sounRAB like you and I are more similar than Emsmom. Emsmom please keep me informed as to how much you started with, why did you feel so much better instantly and I didn't? I wanted to feel better sooner. My doc said with in a couple of days my head won't feel so cloudy. I truly hope I get more energy though cause right now I have none. It doesn't help that I haven't really slept and had been sick all day.
 
Hello captnanny,

I remeraber you :) Don't panic. I don't think you have to take the day off tomorrow. I took my first dose of Suboxone two full days after my last dose of Oxycontin and felt great after about 30 mins. Some people experience nausea/vomiting but I didn't. Perhaps you can be prepared (bring an anti-nauseant just in case) however I think you'll be just fine.

When I say "I felt great," I mean great! I started to feel like "me" again right after I took the Suboxone. Now keep in mind, this was my experience, but I think you'll be ok.

Let us know what happens and what dose you are on. I had to increase my dose of Suboxone a few days after the first, then a few days after that...now I am taking 16mg which seems to be "my" dose. I've been taking Sub for over two months now and my life has changed for the better.

I did NOT have faith that a pill could make me feel the way I do now, but Suboxone did! I no longer crave Oxycontin, or anything else, for that matter. I have my energy back, play with my kiRAB, clean my house etc. Suboxone was the best decision I have ever made.

I hope your experience with it is a good one as well.

emsmom
 
jolo121,

I am moving your posts to a new thread:
"sick from sub"
so that your concerns can receive the attention they deserve.
 
Hi Captnanny,

I take one dose a day. Every morning I take 16mg. I've always taken it only once a day. When I first started out, I took 8mg, all at once. After a few days, I went up to 12mg, then up to 16 a few days after that. I felt good the first day, noticed a wonderful difference and within a week, I was feeling great.

I'm not saying your doctor is giving you your Sub wrong, however it seems weird that you take it twice a day. I've only known people to take it once a day, every day, but then again I live in Canada and we've only had Suboxone for just over a year. It may be different in the U.S.

I received all my info about Suboxone from this board - the majority being from the U.S. - Most folks said they felt better right away, started at 8mg/day then moved up to "their dose" fairly quickly. I still think you aren't taking enough Sub, but I'm not a doctor and could be wrong.

From the first day, I was able to sleep like a baby (something I couldn't do before), had alot of energy and essentially felt "like me again." The second day on Sub, I was out at the park, playing soccer with my daughters. I could not believe how great I felt.

When you get a chance, ask your doctor why he/she has you taking Sub twice a day. Ask about the benefits of taking it once a day. I hope you're able to figure out the right dose quickly cause you are not supposed to feel this way on Sub.

One more thing - I didn't have the cloudy feeling you descibed. Hopefully, more Suboxone patients will reply to your thread. You only have two scenarios (mine and Jolo's) so it's hard to assume what's normal and what's not.

I'll be thinking of you (and Jolo), hoping you both get better soon :)

emsmom
 
nanny dont quit stick with it. I started on may the third. yesterday was the first day i dint throw up and started to feel kind of good not great. today is the first day i was able to take 2mg in the morning and 2mg at nite. Finally found the corabination i think. I didnt feel to bad today.

I think it will get better. I am glad your dr didnt leave you on 8mg aday. mine kept me on it for ten days. I think when i finally went down to 2mg twice aday i had to withdraw from the higher dosage of ten daysl Thought i was going to die lol

ill let you know about tommorow. last nite is the first nite I was able to sleep pretty good. still have a little diareea.

I may have to add 1/2 or 1mg. per day like at 6 hrs. I will ask dr monday
 
emsmom. My dr told me 4mg every 12 hrs. I called him told him i was sick and he said 8mg is what he was told a person should take to make it work when starting out .

I have not been feeling good enough to see if i have pain , was to sick. and i havent been able to work.

It may take more if i go to work and start hurting in my hip and ankel. I am afraid to try 8mg again, but i would like to have the "great" feeling your talking about.

all the lortab should be out of my system completely and maybe 8mg would not make me sick. I have no clue lol.

all I knwo about sub is what i have read on this board also.

When i took the 4mg all at once the first nite. i kept repeating myself and seemed really hi. 2hrs later is when i got sick. but i still had lortab in me.maybe like taking heroin for the first time and getting sick or oxycontin i have heard people getting sick the first time

i will ask my dr if i should take 4mg all at once instead of 2mg twice aday. this is not what he prescribe though. I keep thinking my lotab quantity wasnt that much , like some of those i have read about.

If i was to take 10 (100mg) or 20 (200mg) lortabs in one day like some people i have read about do it would kill me.
i was only taking 10mg one evry 6 hrs. before that 7.5 every 6 hrs
 
Hi Thank you so much for the advice.
Emsmom, I so remeraber you and have been trying to gather courage to come back here. I wound up going to work today, in withdrawals. My appointment was supposed to be at 1:00pm. I was in really bad withdrawals by the time I got to work. When I got there the mom told me the oldest had been sick and she might still not feel well. I was praying that when she woke up she would feel good! WRONG, she was so sick she couldn't get out of bed and had a fever.
Soooo, I had to wait until 6:30 tonight to get a prescription and then drive for 45 min. Looking for a pharmacy that had it. The pharmacy that has it is about two blocks away from my house. So by the time I got it filled I had to take it over the phonhe with the doc. It was so sour and disgusting that I was scared my saliva was going to make me swallow it. He said it was normal and we will meet on Monday. I took another 2mg about 10 minutes and still have that aweful taste in my mouth. So so far I had 4mg of suboxone. Do you get used to the taste? Or does it become less sour?
By the way, he wrote the prescription for suboxone and the bottle says subutex. Jolo said that the doctor gave him both subutex and then suboxone. I thought they were the same thing. Any clarification will help. I guess I'm not feeling as bad as could be or how I felt a little over an hour ago.
 
Hey,
Right now I am kind of scared because even though it's only sunday morning, I am worried about how I will feel tomorrow and if I should go to work or not. I know I need to get hydrated and relax a little more. My head still hurts as well as my neck and arms. My neck kind of always hurts. I have only taken 2mg today and will take another 2 at around 2:00.
I think I expected way too much from this. I want to feel clear headed so badly. I also do not want to depend on the pain pills to feel functional. I was told by my ortho and the sub doc that I should feel functional again but it might take a week or two to work. That I can take, what I can't take is feeling this way for even another day.
I would like to not be sooooo tired or have such a headache, its even in my eyes.
 
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