To anyone that understands the fractional reserve system of U.S. economics, don't

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grrrrrwolf

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you believe that...? "In god we trust" should remain on the currency?
I'm guessing some of you have no clue how the fractional reserve works.

Inflation is the imaginary money that the federal reserve makes. Just like religions get more and more powerful and their merits get less and less valuable.
 
even though it was put on the dollar bill when the country was secular it doesn't matter wheres the sep. of church?
 
Mt 22:19 Shew me the tribute money. And they brought unto him a penny.
Mt 22:20 And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription?
Mt 22:21 They say unto him, Caesar's. Then saith he unto them, Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.
 
good point...the faith in Keynesian theory is to transfer power into the hands of the government...a look at banking quotes of thomas jefferson reveals a cause and effect approach to economics as he makes a series of warnings and describes consequences for breaking the warnings. Of these fractional reserve banking and private central banking were his greatest fears. Warnings ignored the exact consequences our at our door. the spiritual aspect is interesting as deuteronomy 30 issues a promise to israel about being a nation after God and blessing for following included being the lender of money the head not the tail, the tail is the borrower and reflects being disobedient to God; the united states is the largest debtor in the history of mankind...this can only end badly...as for in god we trust; i think this is going to be now on an individual basis...as for me and my house we will serve the lord!
 
"In god we trust"
Has nothing to do with the fractional reserve system of U.S. economics other than being printed on the cash.
The cash would have the same value without it.
 
I don't really care, to be honest. It's more of a problem to have it in the pledge, but even that's just kind of tradition no one really pays attention to.

I mean, the Finnish have a state religion, but they're notoriously a progressive and atheistic society-- the presence of god reminds me of modern monarchy, and it's fine when no one takes it seriously.
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EDIT: I'm well aware of that, and while I don't love the idea of a McCarthy stain on our currency or pledge, it's still not a big deal. Removing it isn't going to change anything-- if nothing else, it's only going to give Christians more of a persecution complex. And yes, even in that short of a time, it's become an American "tradition." Even 50 years is like, 1/4-1/5 of our entire history.
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Um, my argument isn't "the" tradition argument, if you'd bother actually reading what I wrote.

I was saying being a "tradition" makes it pointless, not immune. It's become mindless, and has little real "religious" significance to anyone-- which is why I compared it to modern monarchy, and not some great and meaningful tradition which must not be touched. Monarchy is a dangerous thing, but when it's sitting harmlessly as a figurehead in Buckingham palace, who cares?

Obviously slavery wasn't a tradition in the sense that it was an obsolete figurehead type and not hurting anyone, so there's no point idiotically comparing that to what I said.

I'm also not arguing to keep religion on money, I'm saying it's not particularly problematic, and if we were picking our battles, I wouldn't pick this one.
 
America, a secular country, should not have "god" on their currency. It's a clear violation of church and state. End. Of. Story.

EDIT: Emmy, it's NOT tradition because "under god" was added to the pledge in the 1950s and it was only put in because everyone was scared of the "godless communists."

And I really don't buy the whole "tradition" argument anyways. Just because something is a tradition doesn't make it immune to deletion. Slavery was a traditional practice in the early US, and before it's abolishment, pro-slavery individuals probably used the "it's tradition" argument as well.
 
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