The Fresh 2008 Captain Planet Discussion Thingy

Brad and Katie

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Fresh for '08...you suckas!

The last thread was here:
http://forums.rabroad.net/showthread.php?t=53532

The last comment was:


It's a good point. I also want to know this:


I couldn't force myself to watch this show, but now I want to know more about Dr. Blight. How does one take Gaia's body? And would that make you master over the entire earth? And then wouldn't there be no way to defeat you?
 
Remember kids to defeat dastardly Eco-villains it's business in the front, party in the back.

Why do I have the sudden image of Brock Samson cosplaying as Captain Planet flashing through my head?
 
Eh, I always pictured Captain Planet as the sentai team without any weapons, or robot. Maybe if they had samurai armor instead.

I stand behind my belief that neither kids nor adults want to be talked down to, and any preachy cartoon inevitably does that.
 
Eh...this show was always weird.

I mean,check out the theme song....

"Were the planateers,you can be one too.'Cause saving out planet is the thing to do."

Educational television meets cornball superhero show meet the Gardening channel.
 
I say one thing I always say. Captain Planet is fine and everything, but I learned my Ecology from the Toxic Crusaders. Come one, who doesn't love a kid's cartoon show based on a cult movie where a kid gets his head crushed through by a truck?

But I will say this, I liked it when I was a kid. Not half as much as the Crusaders, but I kinda liked it.
 
I thought it was cool when I was little but it has been years since I have seen it. Hate to sound negative, but I have a feeling that I would find it very corny.
 
With every good villain, there's a good hero prepared to stop him. In the case of the "Eco-Villains": with every lame villain, there must be a lame hero prepared to stop him. Enter the show's main protagonist, the Planeteers. Going with the requested Sentai comparisson, mostly due to many similarities between them and the famous Japanese henshin series.
First I will break down each Planeteer, then their allies. Captain Planet, who is bascally their Mecha usually used in each episode's climax, will be examined in the next addition.
  • They have a similar clothing with the main difference being being the color scheme of them. Their clothes in Season 6 are radically different, though Wheeler's was basically the same save for his shirt was red.
  • They are each given a special power by being that also serves as their mentor.
The Planeteers, going by the order of each power, are...
  • Kwame, the Red Eco-Ranger: While green would be more fitting, with his power being earth. But Kwame acts as the leader, telling what he and his Planeteers what to do next and starts the summoning of Captain Planet by saying "Let our powers combine". Kwame was given the power of Earth because he planted trees in his homeland of Africa so it won't become a desert. Interesting fact, Kwame was voiced by Levar Burton, in one episode has scene where Kwame does the "same roll under a closing door" thing that was usually done by Geordi La Forge.
  • Wheeler, the Yellow Eco-Ranger: The dumb American meant to be us, because we don't know better. Wheeler was clumsy and always asks why should he care about the eco-emergency of the episode, which always leads to a full blown lecture. Like any another token American, Wheeler came from New York, his dad was jerk, and raised by, and I am not kidding, two people that saved him from being mugged and they both live in the trees in Central Park. He has the power of Fire for some reason, probably because his hair red or his so-called "fighting spirit".
  • Linka, the Pink Eco-Ranger: She's from the Soviet Union(Eastern Europe in later seasons), so she has a thick Russian accent. She even says Russian words which brings into question how can 5 young people from other parts of the world with different languages are able to speak English so easily. Wheeler has the hots for Linka and so a cliched antagonistic romantic relationship that makes Inuyasha & Kagome look like a steady couple. She has the power of Wind, because she likes birds.
  • Gi, the Blue Eco-Ranger: She's the Asian girl, she's pretty smart and likes the animals that live undersea, especially dolphins. Sadly, I just described everything about the character. She has the power of Water because of her love the Ocean.
  • Ma-Ti, the Green Eco-Ranger: From South America, the much ridiculed of the team. Why? Maybe because the yongest and that's usually perfect fodder for that. Maybe because he has a pet monkey. Or maybe because he the most retarded power of all five rings. I mean, Heart? That's no element, that's an organ used in cartoons as a way to show emotion. He was raised by his grandfather, who was a shaman, because his parents, who were trying bring peace to their respective people, were killed. I believed that the writers had to actually think on how to make his power of Heart useful. So they have be able to read people's hearts so Ma-Ti can tell if someone is telling the truth, can communicate with animals like Aquaman(which necessarily isn't a good thing), and send telepathic messages to the other Planeteers. That last is probably the most commonly used because he usually gets kidnapped by the main villain of the episode, but that comes with the territory of being the kid.
The rings could be used by it's respective owner by yelling it's power. Like Captain Planet, pollution, which they were made to fight, are their weakness. It there's too much, the rings short out. Also, whenever Captain Planet is summoned, the rings won't work because each ring's power is combined to summon Planet. The villains usually take the captured Planeteer's/Planeteers' ring/rings, but all the times I've seen them do that, they never even try to dispose of the rings. Proving how incompetent they are.

Their mentor was Gaia, the goddess of the Earth from Greek mythology. First voiced by Whoopi Goldberg, now sharing her left-wing ideals on The View, and then by a pre-crazy Margot Kidder. She provided the Planeteers with the rings, briefs the Planeteers on the eco-emergency of the episode, and gives a full blown lecture to ol' ingorant Wheeler on why it's bad. Heck, in some episodes she doesn't appear at all save for the PSAs at the end of the show.

The Planeteers would also have help in each episode. Usually a local youth, a village elder, or a member of enviromental group. The only real ally I should mention is Commander Clash, voiced by Lou Gosset Jr. He first appeared in the two parter "The Mission To Save Earth" as a soldier from a undisclosed country serving a sentry on a otherwise deserted island. He was able to drive Skumm & Sludge away with his weird tank that only fired water and was tricked by Blight into thinking the stranded Planeteers were spies sent by "the enemy". After some explanation from the Planeteers, Clash would find out that the Cold War was over and he was "ob-so-leet". Despite being able to save the Planeteers from Captain Pollution with his water tank thing. It wasn't after a speech from Ma-Ti he would feel useful again. He would help them get their rings back and give a speech heavily lifted from "Henry V" about why Plunder's hired soldiers shouldn't work for him. He and the soldiers would form what Wheeler describes as "environmental clean-up force".

His next and I believe his final appearance would be in "The Summit To Save Earth" Part 2. This two-parter was aforementioned "Every Villains" team-up episode I mentioned a few posts back. In part 1, Zarm and other six "Eco-Villains" were able to sabotage a special meeting of world leaders to solve the "pollution crisis". There by making the planet polluted like hell and Gaia aged & decrepit. The Planeteers were warped 10 years into future and enlisted asked for the help of Clash, who still looks the same. With his help, the Planeteers were able to save Gaia.

I should also point out that Zarm, who was Gaia's predecessor as a spirit of the Earth and has alot of power at his disposal, had trouble with Clash who had a mirror.

So, atleast most of the heroes are on the same level as the villains. But what about the title character himself? Find out in the next time.
 
It was offscreen. What happened was earlier in the episode Wheeler's friends were riding on top of trains. Later in the episode, Wheeler asked his female friend what happened to his male friend, and she told him that he lost his head when the train went through a tunnel. Watching this as a kid was pretty shocking. Even though they didn't show the decapitation, the description itself was pretty gruesome for a kid's show.
 
Nice to hear something that isn't endless dissing the show considering that half the people on these boards have rarely-never been able to say much more than "suck" about this show, giving little or no attention to its positives, whilst I do see the occasional good point about its negatives - i.e. certain politically incorrect aspects - I can look even at disliked shows and address at least one positive, I challenge CP's bashers to do so.
 
Wasn't that show cancelled after one season? The whole saving the environment kick became popular in a lot of children's media at that time (Most notably in Ultraman Great, an Australian take on Ultraman where the Earth is actually the main villain halfway through, and creates monsters to exterminate humanity). It seemed like many things, a flash in the pan, but Turner took the preachiness to a whole new level of disturbing moral lessons.
 
I can't think of any. It's not a show that lends itself to positive viewpoints so readily due to its origin (funded by a single-minded executive almost exclusively, who used the networks he owned to put it on TV), messages (which range from the ridiculous to the controversial) to its content (utterly boring as far as conventional action is concerned.) It's today, a show remembered for how utterly cheesy and horrible it was, while trying to do everything, educate, entertain, and impress adults. And it failed in nearly all accounts. Can you really expect something like Tekkaman Blade from a show designed to be about saving the environment? Not really. Could you expect something that did what it was supposed to do as an action cartoon funded by someone with Ted Turner's resources? I'd say yes. I don't know, maybe I've been spoiled by years of flashy transformation sequences and big explosions in cartoons.

What would you consider its positives, might I ask?
 
-Educational
-Has some good messages
-Tried to cover serious topics not every animation would have the guts to

Whilst I do agree it had some rather politically incorrect elements, took things a little too far at times, etc., please, if you're going to diss a classic like this, have some respect for those who can appreciate how great it was in certain regards.

As for expecting something like Tekkaman Blade? Hello, OF COURSE NOT, these AREN'T EVEN THE SAME BLOODY GENRE.

You do absolutely nothing but spit all over this show, giving no attention to ANY positives, not even bothering to look for any positive aspects. I can give attention to positives with even shows I dislike such as The Batman. So far, from what you've demonstrated, you cannot.
 
Given the recent accelerated "greening" of our pop culture, with Al Gore's propaganda film winning all kinds of awards, the General Electric-owned NBC going "eco-friendly" to sell their parent company's energy-saver lightbulbs, and carbon dioxide officially replacing transfats as The Thing That's Gonna Kill Us All, it should surprise nobody the Planeteers are poised for a comeback. And if you thought they were preachy before.......

Personally, I always thought the Planeteers were the worst villains on that show. They acted as judge, jury and executioner for the show's "villains". Come on, a group of teenagers, three of whom came from Third World Countries and who probably never saw indoor plumbing until they moved in with the Druidic goddess, passing judgement on technological combines, never offering the polluters a chance to clean up their acts, destroying other people's property and putting people out of work without legal sanction or reimbursement, shutting down legitimate business ventures without a fair hearing. It was anti-capitalist, anti-technology, anti-free economy and more sanctimonious than a convention of evangelicals.
 
It's interesting that environmental awareness has popped up last year and unfortunately, Captain Planet has yet to reappear with a new series. Too bad I didn't catch on to the series until it was too late.

Also does Ted Turner still has his Captain Planet website running online?
 
Is there anything positive about Captain Planet? Well, it did make kids more aware about their interaction with the environment. However, the negatives far outweigh the positives.

My biggest problem of the show was how they simplified everything. "Polluters pollute because they're evil." That's not true. It's more complicated than that. It has to do with economics, social structures, government policy and stability, cultural expectations, etc... I know it's a kid's show, but they could've covered all these topics, show both sides struggling, developing, and ultimately respecting each other, and therefore giving plot and character development to the show. Which is more interesting: the Earth planeteer always being right because he's African and from a third world country, or the Earth planeteer coping with environmental policy while satisfying the economic demands his country faces? I pick the later.

Many children's show have dealt with darker issues. In Gargoyles, Broadway shot Elisa. In B:TAS, Bruce loses his friend, Harvey. Terry's dad dies in BB. But Cap Planet doesn't offer any of that. Instead, it relies on a dude in a two piece spandex and a mullet (Who the hell did the character design?) to solve everyone's problems, instead of having the charcters resolving the issue themselves. How boring.
 
Oh, hehe, not only is HIS official site up- there's a Captain Planet FOUNDATION...this "green" foundation that sponsors events which promote conservation. It comes to schools and all that...and my biggest question:

Ya mean in '08, kids are actually dying to see a 20-something year old blue dude with a mullet and a quarter-shirt prancing around their school, telling them how in love with Al Gore he is? That's just creepy, IMO....
 
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