Chuck's (C&C) web site has NOT been updated in years. He will tell you this! Call and talk to him unless you are close enough to ride in. In the past 6 years, on 3 different bikes, I have had Corbin (heated solo w pillion), Mustang (solo w pillion) and C&Cs.(5 different ones!) I sold them all and have been riding my custom made C&C leather solo for over a year (this time) For ME it is the most comfortable, best positioning seat I have used thus far. I seldom do more than 300 to 350 miles a day if traveling and can easily do this on the C&C. CHuck and Chuey make these one at a time, and can make the pretty much any way you want them. Here are a few pics...oh and C&C makes a much bigger pillion than any pictured on the web site, ask Chuck about it and also mention HDF for a 10% discount...If your local HD dealer has regular sales, you can get them hooked up as a C&C dealer by having them call and then take advantage of buyig through them after you talk to CHuck and figure out what you want. I bought my latest one through my dealer at a 30% off open house!