Taper help

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Hi guys --I am not doing so great on a taper this time. I have cheated and realize that I am only cheating myself, but still doesnt help and I keep doing it. It will have to come to an end here at some point because I will run out of pills. How did all of you that successfully did a taper do it. Will the constant withdrawal feeling go away? That is the hardest part.

d
 
You're doing a great job D! Once you start feeling the withdrawals hitting, you might want to taper a bit slower than one pill at a time. That's a pretty big drop in dose when you get down on the low end.
 
High guys --thought I would just post even though I really dont feel like doing anything. Really tough night. I woke up and like a robot went to the pills and took 2 . Screwed up the whole taper process. Is it because deep down I really dont want this or is it because my wife and I have really not set out an actually plan. We just finished a REAL deep talk and I promised to her that we will stick to a solid schedule from now on. I am on 70mg per day right now (still not comfortable on this- harsh reality was that last week there were times when I has taken upwarRAB of 200+ mg per day) we will level on on this for 6 days then go down to 65mg or 60mg. 5 more days then do it again, and so on and so on. I think and most importantly she thinks that this will make me semi-productive at work and be able to live and work in a normal fashion. I have NEVER successfully finished a taper so i hope that this works this time. Actually --I HAVE to make this work this time.

D
 
Hi D

For me, there was frame of mind that helped me taper with discipline. The taper was my biggest priority in my life and everything else became secondary. I wanted more than anything to become once gain the person I was meant to be and I was willing to suffer whatever I needed to to get there. Every single withdrawal symptom became a syrabol of healing to me. When we fought cancer, we endured treatment because we wanted the cancer gone from our bodies.

Addiction is a cancer of the thinking. If we want to rid our thinking of addiction cancer, we do all we have to in order to make it all leave. We don't give up, we accept the treatment symptoms, we use support wherever we can get it, and once it is gone, we live a lifestyle that helps us to live cancer (addiction) free.

Buddy, I don't know in my heart that there is a true willingness and commitment yet. I don't hear it, I don't see it. I don't feel a real "I want it to be done permanently." Get out of the physical and into the mind, D. The physical will last throughout the taper, but will come to end. The mind? Unless we are truly willing to surrender our addiction, it will control our thinking forever.

reach
 
Hey D!

GREAT POST REACH! I needed to hear that too so thank you.

D, the first time I tapered (on round #2 now) I was diligent about my taper schedule!!! For me, I would get up, take the amount I was supposed to and then only take enough with me to work or wherever I was going for my next scheduled dose and leave the rest at home so I would not be temped no matter how bad the w/d were. I am doing the same now. I know that if I don't do that... it leaves to much to chance and let's face it.. we can't really trust ourselves now can we? If you are home bound then I would take out your dose and then put the bottle out of site in a lock box or something and give your wife the key since she is on board with you. You have got to take the temptation out... W/d sucks and everything Reach said below really helped me the first time around and I am using the same logic this time too. I took a ton of hot baths and some anxiety meRAB to sleep because I don't have an addiction to those luckily. Try to move around as best as possible. That is why I force myself to go to work and deal with people. It's supposed to help and this time around I don't have a choice because a coworker of mine just had surgery and will be out the next 3 weeks. Adding more stress.. GREAT. For me stress is a trigger and makes me use so on those stressful moments get up from what you are doing and do something else, take a shower, clean something.... WHATEVER can distract you.

For me I tell my boss I am feeling ill because believe me, I don't look like I normally do when I come to work. I look like death warmed over. Then he thinks I am coming down with something OR already have it. I don't have a choice to take the day off but at least I don't have to try and hide my symptoms. You can use the same if you need to. I will post again if I think of anything else okay!

We can do this together friend! HANG IN THERE!!!!!

Blessings!
 
For me, I set a goal and with the help of my wife, we worked together to achieve it. Every day, every hour, every minute, it was on my mind and I strived to do get closer to it every day. It's all in the mind and as your addiction puts up barriers, you have to rip them down or find another way around them. Just keep moving forward.

As for the cheating - get rid of the cheater pills and give them to your wife. You have to work together as you have been. Remeraber, you are not only doing this for you, but for your family.

I like Reach's "Addiction is a cancer of the thinking." What a perfect way to describe the disease of addiction. You have to take control and say that you are tougher than the pills and alcohol and remind yourself constantly that you are in control of your body.

I think you are doing great - every time you go to cheat a little, imagine all of us staring at you with our hanRAB on our hips yelling, "NO! You don't want to do that!" :-)
 
You absolutely need to set a specific tapering plan out. Do it on paper or on a calendar and put in someplace where you see it everyday. Know when you are going to drop down a dose so you can plan mentally for it. You need to make a goal and every fiber of your body neeRAB to do whatever it can to reach that goal. It's hard to do, but deep down inside you really have to want it for yourself and your family. If you can go to some NA (Narcotics Anonymous) or AA meetings, I think it will be a big help to you. We're always here to help give you motivation.

If you were taking 200 mg of Percocets (10/325) AND drinking alcohol, I highly suggest that you have a liver function test. Not only where your over the daily limit of acetaminophen, but along with the alcohol, you could have done damage to your liver. You should have that checked out.
 
OH GOD no was not taking that amount!! I was always very careful. My MG use got that high because I was using 80mg oxys. The green devils --i call them. The most 10/325 norcos I would use would be 8-9. and when I did use a bunch i used the cold water extraction method, which looking back on it was better for my body but UBER STUPID because i would take the acetometaphin out of the pill and drink 100mg of the drug in ONE NIGHT!! the stupid things addicts do. The only reason I went to the OXY 80s in the first place was because i WAS so nervous about my liver and they have no tylenol in them. again --STUPID STUPID STUPID.

Back to my misery

D
 
Thanks guys --days are still tough --my wife and I had a really long hard talk last night in which SHE finally let let loose. IT was hard to hear, but it actually helped. I am down to 7 pills a day and that will soon go to 6. I am taking this slow and easy. I get a refill this week, which I think might be my last. REACH, you are right, i am still interested in HOW they make me feel and not the GOAL. I write that but dont believe it. I have no problem sneaking right now and that has to stop. I am only hurting myself. I just dont want to hurt. We talked a bunch last night about some sort to CHEMICAL IrabALANCE that makes me do this over and over. 8 years is a long time to still be typing here and I have to deal with that. I need to be the helper, not the person being helped (again and again and again). I always want the quick fix. Exercise did that for me and that is why i love, quick, fast and get a feeling from it, pills, same thing, pop one and BANG you feel better, go to sleep or get energy. Quick fix is what I am all about. I have a long hard road ahead of me and I need to get on board with a plan. There are no more pills anywhere but with her. I know that if I cheat and take a few extra i am only hurting myself in the end.

d
 
Whew! I'm glad you were "responsible" about it :eek: hehehe Yea, acetaminophen is the killer part of percs.
 
You dont know how your timing was SOOO important --i read your link just before I was heading home and had some "BAD" thoughts for the ride --a quick stop lets just say --your worRAB brought me right here safe and clean. thanks

d
 
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