T3 alarms

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xO Kacey Ox

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A question I need some advice on please. If I set an alarm on my T3 and the machine is on powersave, is it supposed to switch itself on and sound the alarm?
Mine momentarily switches on, there is no sound, then back off again and if I open the slider and get back to the home screen, the alarm sounds.
Surely this is not a normal event? What is the point of an alarm if it does not wake up the machine and sound off? The only additional program I have installed is ZLauncher.
Any help please?
Doug

Additional information - the keylock is also on and it definitely brings up the screen with the "deactivate" keylock button on then switches off. Do I have to remove this keylock function to get it to alarm? Ta
 
My T3 "wakes" up - even with keylock activated, sounds the alarm, and if I don't do check it (indicate done or snooze) the T3 goes back to "sleep" (powers down).

I'm not using Zlauncher (use Launcher X), so I don't know if there are additional settings in your launcher that may be interfering with the normal alarm settings.

fnagle
 
I have been having the same problem with alarms not sounding when ever keylock is on. I am still using LauncherIII. Sounds like I should try upgrading.
 
But don't upgrade to ZLauncher because that may be the problem. I may need to remove it and see if the alarm sounds then, it may be a bug of some sort.
fnagle - can you confirm that when auto off is activated (you have no choice of leaving that function off on mine) and the machine is effectively off, the alarm switches the machine on and your alarm shows up? What about when keylock is on? I was getting a split second message but did not have time to deactivate it.
Mine stays off and the only alarm indication I get is when I open the slider and the machine is back on desktop with icons showing? Then the alarm sounds. Pretty useless!
Thanks
Doug
 
Ok, here's the status and what happens on my T3:

Power save - "power down" set to Auto-off after 3 minutes.

Keylock - automatic (gets set when power off)

Alarm set xx:xx time.

Alarm "wakes" up the Tungsten, shows the "Reminder" and stays on for approximately 3 minutes (auto off time) and then goes back to "sleep" (auto off)

If I press the "power on" button, the alarm shows up on the screen. When I press OK, the "Alarm" is cleared and the "Deactivate keylock" screen shows, and when I press deactivate keylock, the T3 is then "on".

Hope this clears up what happens on "my" T3. Your mileage may vary. :)
 
fnagle,
Hi again. A bit more investigation last night after clearing the machine back to factory settings reveals that as well, it only appears to do this after I have put the extra programs from the Palm CD back on it. I have only two additional programs, ZLauncher, but I removed this first before resetting the machine and it made no difference and the Belkin G700 Keyboard.
Has anyone else noticed problems with alarms not sounding after putting on extra programs. There is nothing special on it, Adobe Acrobat, Bluechat but they are all on the accompanying CD.
I suppose the only thing to do is to put the programs on one by one, then test an alarm until I find the culprit. Pretty time consuming!
Any other ideas anyone?
Thanks
Doug
 
Some more trials.
Well, what a time I've had! I think I have now narrowed it down to ZLauncher. I have tried lots of different alarm settings and found the following:-
ZLauncher on with "Support Attention Indicator" on as default launcher - no alarm sounds at all whilst off.
ZLauncher on but with "Support Attention Indicator" in preferences off - no alarm or sounds whilst off.
Disable ZLauncher (normal desktop) but with slider open - no alarm or sounds whilst off.
Normal desktop with slider shut - alarm sounds and display starts up.
I think this narrows it down to ZLauncher, at least on my machine. I have emailed the programmers at ZTEch in China to see what they say but I hope this is the program.
Is it a known fact that the slider being open whilst the machine has auto shut itself off results in the alarms not sounding? I should have tried this last night when I reset the machine completely but got so frustrated with it I gave up. I have just tried the machine again with the default Palm desktop and the alarm came up.
Thanks
Doug
 
I think the tests I did with ZLauncher running/not running were a bit flawed because I did lots more over the weekend and I now think it is my Belkin G700 PDA keyboard driver that is the culprit! With it enabled, I get no alarms, with it disabled, the alarms are as they should be.
Can anyone else confirm this is the case please? I am fed up with hard resetting etc. After my hard reset, I put LauncherX on, all was fine, I then put the Belkin driver on and the alarms stopped. I will write or even ring Belkin UK today and ask them about it.
Many thanks
Doug
 
An update. Belkin UK said they had never tested this function with a T3 and would do so when they found someone who had the PDA and a keyboard.
Rather than waiting for this, is there anyone who can run this test for me? All I need you to do is to enable the Belkin driver, set an alarm and let it auto shut down. Then see if the alarm wakes up the machine.
Then do another with the driver disabled, set another alarm and see what happens. I found it made no difference with the slider open or shut.
The alam will sound if the machine is on.
Thanks, interested in any findings.
Doug
 
Can anyone help me with what I think is a quite important bug find between the T3 and the Belkin keyboard? I mean, what was an organiser originally for? Not MP3, playing videos etc but for notifying you of an event by way of an alarm.
It would help if the driver turned itself off when you disconnected the keyboard from the PDA. Is this possible to program for anyone?
Doug
 
"I mean, what was an organiser originally for? Not MP3, playing videos etc but for notifying you of an event by way of an alarm."

WELL SAID. That's my gripe with OS6/Cobalt and the limitations it will have on existing software. It's like they've lost sight of what the PDA was for.

I would contact a couple of people on your own and see if they can WRITE something for you (another good idea on your part):

1. Peter Easton http://www.whizoo.com/

2. Florence Pillet http://perso.wanadoo.fr/fpillet/

These gentleman are TERRIFIC at "clean, custom stuff" and could probably help you where others couldn't or wouldn't.

I'll check around for "driver related crap" and see if I can find anything.
 
Thank you Paul, for that. The problem is still there with the oifficial Belkin driver but I downloaded the unofficial Belkin G700/Wingboard/BenQ/Logitech Typeaway keyboard driver for OS5 and it works a treat. Alarms sound as they should do, off or on.
I was told that Belkin themselves recommend this driver which says a lot really for their own one.
I will keep those links you gave for those programmers for the future. At least the problem is cracked now with a little effort. It will be interesting to see whether Belkin put a revision out to their own driver or whether they will just recommend people use Igor's.
Thanks for the agreement about what these machines were originally for. We sometimes forget this in our quest for the latest, greatest gadgets. It's like mobile phones now. With some of them, you can apparently still make phone calls, if you can work it without switching on the camera, voice recording etc! After 15 years of building my own computers, I still struggle wirh mobile phone features. That says a lot.
Regards
Doug
 
You're welcome Doug - these guys write FREEWARE as well as commercial ware, and it works better than most high end stuff -- especially Florent Pillet's FINDHACK 4.0.6 - simply AWESOME. I corrected the link to Peter Easton above - I had Florent down twice.

I've got a Nokia 8260 phone that's dropped two calls in 6 years, and my T3, and a pen and my car keys.

I'm set.

Laughed my ass off at your "use the phone for a call without turning on the camera" line - pretty soon the microwave will be emailing the toaster, and we're locked outside in our underwear.

Live long and prosper, Spock . . . or should I give you the Palm Developers' version:

Live long and profit. Or just rehash the same crap and eliminate good software useability, but play an MP3 while checking your email . . . the hell with those "spreadhseets" . . . . . .

Good Lord.
 
To quote John Heffron from Last Comic Standing (for those of us in the US who saw the show last season) "You know what I want in a phone? I want a phone that wants to be a phone. I want a phone I can use to make a call. How about that phone."
 
Thanks for the agreement about what these machines were originally for. We sometimes forget this in our quest for the latest, greatest gadgets. It's like mobile phones now. With some of them, you can apparently still make phone calls, if you can work it without switching on the camera, voice recording etc! After 15 years of building my own computers, I still struggle wirh mobile phone features. That says a lot.


Sup guys,

I dont see the prob with the palms becoming multi-taskers. Though they have graduated from the stage where they just organise stuff, to become devices that can play cool games and listen to mp3s and etc. Im not complaining. I just think that there's nothing wrong. If it doesn't suit you, the paperbacks will do fine dont you think?

cheers,
 
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