Sunrise 0.41 and some Good Advice

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Kunmui

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Laurens Fridael, BRILLIANT author of Sunrise 0.41 (successor to JPluck, which I used and loved), had some good advice for me and I thought I'd pass it along to all of you (emailed him to say I was giving him credit, since this is a reproduction of his email).

I have Java JRE (runtime environment) 1.4.1.07 - and didn't want to go to the newer one (1.4.2."04" or something) because it took up another 60MB. Java test page said all was fine (I'll add that link later so you guys can check yours).

I went on the Java forum and no one could answer why 1.4.2 was better, so I left it alone - reinstalled 1.4.1.07. I've been "away" from this forum because over the last 2 weeks I did something a little drastic in light of getting Firefox 1.0: I uninstalled Internet Explorer (6 and the imbedded 4.0!), Java Virtual Machine, Outlook Express, Outlook, address book, handicapped accessories, NET Meeting, games and some other crap including 100MB of security upgrades for Win2k/I.E. (100 MB alone).

I saved 390MB, and rely on Firefox now completely. I can't have a security leak if there's nothing to leak. It's as "linux" as Windoze can be.

Anyway, now I've framed the thing, back on point: I want Sunrise and it's almost done - 0.41 is "final," but Laurens is a perfectionist and I'm sure will add little improvements. Here's the all important email he sent me, complete with a link to an interesting article discussing JAVA SECURITY LEAK (no one ever thought thre could be such a thing):
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I'm not sure if Sunrise will work with 1.4.1. I don't have it installed
so I can't say. At any rate, I strongly recommend using the latest 1.4.2
release, as earlier versions have a serious security hole.

See (for instance):
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/11/24/HNsunhot_1.html
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That article convinced me to spend the additional memory and move up to 1.4.2, and some of you might think about doing same. With a firewall, antispy/virus/adware, and Firefox + SpyBot, I'm not too worried - but if a java applet can be "reprogrammed," and 1.4.2 can stop this, then I'm all for it. Ends up taking additional 30MB by the way, not 60MB as I first thought, and according to some it runs several times faster.

Sunrise should be a fantastic webpage viewer, better than TealAgent and Silo combined . . . and freeware. Still works with "Plucker," by the way.

Laurens Fridael is a TERRIFIC guy and we should all support him on here!!
 
Hm, it's good that you're using firefox. But as far as I know you will need internet explorer to access windows update, because it depends on ActiveX (and windows update is the only thing I seem to need IE for, on the single machine where I use windows occasionally).
 
Sunrise and Firefox. Doesn't get any better.

As far as Windows upgrades, I'm using Win2k SPack 4, with "5" coming down the pike. I won't hold my breath, nor will I "upgrade." I know this is most people's biggest concern, but not mine.

To repeat the above, I uninstalled 100MB of security patches (23), I.E., Outlook Express, Outlook, address book, NET Meeting, handicapped accessories, games, Java Virtual Machine (I run Java JRE 1.4.2 now!, which includes it). PC has never run better or faster, loads up in about 30 seconds (15 after CNTRL ALT DELETE & password) and I'm lovin' it.

Thanks for the concern but since I'm feelin like an "outlaw" for committing the cardinal sin of DUMPING I.E., I'm already looking at Linux and will post separately with a question on that.

Do yourself a favor and DUMP I.E. using XPLITE/LITE2000, get MoveOnBoot for stubborn files like scepol.log (which a forum of Microsoft consultants TOLD ME IT COULD NOT be deleted, then offered me a job when I discovered how!!), load Firefox with a spare on CD in case you need to contact the web and it crashes (you wouldn't have a "spare") and ENJOY LIFE!

Debian, Knobbix, Mandrake, SUSE, RedHat . . . I'm figuring all that out right now and then I'm REALLY sailin' - with FF, Palm stuff run in "Wine" conversion, and no more of this M$ silliness.
 
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