Gambling is actually worse than smoking - you can lose your home, your life, your family, etc. over it. I've never heard of anyone losing all of that (well, the life part, but that's gradual) over cigarette smoking. Alcoholism is also worse. There are worse habits. Smoking has more to do with health issues than anything else.
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My whole family is full of smokers. My mom smokes ciggs and pot. My step-mom smokes ciggs. My grandma and grandpa on my dads side use to smoke. My grandma and grandpa on my moms side smokes. My sisters smoke so does some of my brothers. All except my dad and my brother and i don't smoke. I hate smoking it is my worst pet peeve. It is just nasty especialy 2nd-hand smoke. I think that there sould be more designated spots were only people who smoke can smoke. I hate it it is stupid it ruins your life and it is a waste of time and money.
//defends self...
Birthday example was just that - an example... I've gone through asthma and all that shit too...
The cigarette smoke isn't just effecting the smokers. Its effecting the planet. Now taking all risks of sounding like a hippy, America produces over 2,000 metric tonnes of CO2 emission per capita per year. In 2003, the American population was just about 300,000,000 people. 2,000 metric tonnes of CO2 x 300,000,000 people = 6,000,000,000,000 metric tonnes of CO2 emissions. I know not all of this however, is from smoking, and that over 40% is automotive/fossil fuel burning, another large portion from things we can't control, but somewhere in that 6,000,000,000,000 tonnes is cigarette smoke.
Do you know how light a gas is? To have 6,000,000,000,000 tonnes of gas is a huge amount. Even to have one tonne of gas would be a large amount... With this information, you can pretty much say that most of what we're breathing in isn't clean. At all. Especially in a place where cars are used a lot, but this isn't about cars, this is about smoking. Now, just say smoking accounted for only 1,000,000 metric tonnes out of all that CO2. I was too lazy to look for statistics on how much smoking actually causes, but i'm fairly sure its a high number...
Whoever said that second hand smoke isn't a problem, especially if they're outside is wrong. You're just contributing to what will be our end. Energy consumption during the summer is huge, due to people using their air conditioner, or central air, and a lot of this can be blamed on global warming... A certain % of global warming can be blamed on cigarette smoke (and automotive, and natural causes)... I've written papers on these issues in two classes (Biology and Autobody) and gotten good results from both teachers... Its kind of upsetting how many people don't see that they're ruining it for everyone.
Even at school, the idiots who smoke have their place outside of the school... Every time you walk by there all you can smell is cigarette smoke, and all you can see on the ground is cigarette butts... Its pathetic how these people have to cling onto something at such an age, and their marks actually show it almost every time... I've only met a few people who smoke whos marks in school aren't extremely low...
Bleh. People don't even take me seriously when I'm talking about it. Pretty soon we're going to need to start making glass domes around cities and pump out emissions into the black, carbon filled sky...
--Also, off topic with this reply, but someone said something about never seeing a person lose everything due to smoking... I'm willing to estimate that over half of the people who go bankrupt and lose everything smoke.. It may not have been the main problem, but it was probably part of it... I bet you most homeless people smoke...
Birthday example was just that - an example... I've gone through asthma and all that shit too...
The cigarette smoke isn't just effecting the smokers. Its effecting the planet. Now taking all risks of sounding like a hippy, America produces over 2,000 metric tonnes of CO2 emission per capita per year. In 2003, the American population was just about 300,000,000 people. 2,000 metric tonnes of CO2 x 300,000,000 people = 6,000,000,000,000 metric tonnes of CO2 emissions. I know not all of this however, is from smoking, and that over 40% is automotive/fossil fuel burning, another large portion from things we can't control, but somewhere in that 6,000,000,000,000 tonnes is cigarette smoke.
Do you know how light a gas is? To have 6,000,000,000,000 tonnes of gas is a huge amount. Even to have one tonne of gas would be a large amount... With this information, you can pretty much say that most of what we're breathing in isn't clean. At all. Especially in a place where cars are used a lot, but this isn't about cars, this is about smoking. Now, just say smoking accounted for only 1,000,000 metric tonnes out of all that CO2. I was too lazy to look for statistics on how much smoking actually causes, but i'm fairly sure its a high number...
Whoever said that second hand smoke isn't a problem, especially if they're outside is wrong. You're just contributing to what will be our end. Energy consumption during the summer is huge, due to people using their air conditioner, or central air, and a lot of this can be blamed on global warming... A certain % of global warming can be blamed on cigarette smoke (and automotive, and natural causes)... I've written papers on these issues in two classes (Biology and Autobody) and gotten good results from both teachers... Its kind of upsetting how many people don't see that they're ruining it for everyone.
Even at school, the idiots who smoke have their place outside of the school... Every time you walk by there all you can smell is cigarette smoke, and all you can see on the ground is cigarette butts... Its pathetic how these people have to cling onto something at such an age, and their marks actually show it almost every time... I've only met a few people who smoke whos marks in school aren't extremely low...
Bleh. People don't even take me seriously when I'm talking about it. Pretty soon we're going to need to start making glass domes around cities and pump out emissions into the black, carbon filled sky...
--Also, off topic with this reply, but someone said something about never seeing a person lose everything due to smoking... I'm willing to estimate that over half of the people who go bankrupt and lose everything smoke.. It may not have been the main problem, but it was probably part of it... I bet you most homeless people smoke...
I happen to completely agree with you, Boycott. Smoking is lame. It is however an addiction. One that is so strong that often people that do smoke it become very selfish and would rather put an asthmatic at a health risk and smoke somethign than to at least smoke in an area that does not effect others as directly as restaurants, cars and clusters in front of doors. However, not all may be like that and actually try and I am very happy about that and I'm proud of those that seriously try to quit. It is a serious addiction that can't always just stop. There is a physical need for it. I've even heard the addiction compared to needing air to breathe. Just like air to breathe, their nicotine to inhale along with uria and poisonous gases. It's kind of gross if you ask me. I have asthma due to a very bad case of bronchitis. Cigarette smoke does effect me quite a bit and it sucks being in restaurants. I've argued the money point to my mother as well. She still smokes to this point. She even made me lie to my doctor about her smoking when he asked why I was coughing so much. I tried everything to get her to stop. Breaking the cigarettes and replacing them in the box. wetting the filters, throwing them out, but she'd just go out and buy more. Money wasted and so was my lecturing her.
I hate to say this Boycott, but you may be wasting your breath on them too. It's a sad and pathetic addiction but when it comes to this kind of addiction, not much else comes first on their list of things to do.
I hate to say this Boycott, but you may be wasting your breath on them too. It's a sad and pathetic addiction but when it comes to this kind of addiction, not much else comes first on their list of things to do.
BlahPaDaDoPii
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That's bullshit. Gambling, itself, isn't an addiction.
Besides, smoking, is worse than alcoholism. An alcoholic can stay at home and drink all day with out affecting me. That's a better habit.
A smoker lights up once a day, it's affecting me. It's the worst habit.
Besides, smoking, is worse than alcoholism. An alcoholic can stay at home and drink all day with out affecting me. That's a better habit.
A smoker lights up once a day, it's affecting me. It's the worst habit.
brittany (:
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Yes and no. Gambling is depending on luck and creates a sort of adrenaline rush that can become addicting. That's why you find a lot of thrill seekers, because the adrenaline rush becomes very addicting. With gambling the knowledge that the next hand could be your lucky one is an adrenaline rush of another kind that can be insanely addicting. Some people can know when to stop pushing their luck, some people can't. So, gambling is the cause of the addiction and becomes the addiction because that's what gamblers do to get the adrenaline rush. (If that made any sense at all).
CrAyOnS O_o
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This whole thread is nothing but posturing and shots at smokers... it's rather lame and pathetic.
Do smokers really care about your opinions? NO
Do non-smokers really care about smoker's opinions? NO
Who cares? Nether your opinions, nor this thread are going to change anything.
You could at least be sensible and say something like "You know, I don't like smoking, but I respect other people's right to do as they please with a legal substance. As long as they don't blow smoke in my face I'm ok with their decision to smoke."
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Do smokers really care about your opinions? NO
Do non-smokers really care about smoker's opinions? NO
Who cares? Nether your opinions, nor this thread are going to change anything.
You could at least be sensible and say something like "You know, I don't like smoking, but I respect other people's right to do as they please with a legal substance. As long as they don't blow smoke in my face I'm ok with their decision to smoke."
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But thats exactly why its so pathetic... They KNOW what its doing, they just don't stop. I'm NOT ok with their decision, because even indirectly its still affecting me. Even if someone smokes on the other side of the world its affecting me. Its not that I don't like smokers, I just see it as ignorant every time someone says they don't give two shits about the place that they have to share. Put it this way. Just say you live in a house with 5 other people, and just say that you are always cleaning up after those 5 people who eat pizza every day, smoke cigarettes, have extremely disgusting habits, you're picking up moldy food every day, used condoms etc... They just don't care about where they live... You would most likely get annoyed and leave. This is different, as I can't leave and get away from the people who don't give regards to the fact that they're ruining the place we live. They litter the places that they do smoke with cigarette butts... I'm not saying smokers individually, there are people who are smart and addicted to cigarettes, but smokers as a whole need to realize what they're contributing to all of the problems and stop just blowing them off.
Motor Mouth
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If you read my post, I didn't say it was an addiction. I said it was worse than smoking.
No, it isn't. While an alcoholic CAN stay at home and drink all day, they oftentimes don't. They cause a lot of domestic disturbances. I know this alcoholic here, he causes so much trouble that the police know the address by heart because they've been by there so many times. Since when have you seen someone wired off a cigarette cause so much trouble?
When someone breathes, it affects you. Carbon dioxide goes into the atmosphere. What are you going to do, stop everyone from breathing? When someone drives a car, volatile gases get emptied into the atmosphere. I bet you have a car. Whenever you drive, you're making the air worse for all of us. The power plants that supply the power so you can get on the computer, watch TV, listen to music, run your heating/air conditioning, pollute the air constantly. So, before you pinpoint some random smoker for making "your" air dirtier, think of your daily activities. You pollute more than you think.
No, it isn't. While an alcoholic CAN stay at home and drink all day, they oftentimes don't. They cause a lot of domestic disturbances. I know this alcoholic here, he causes so much trouble that the police know the address by heart because they've been by there so many times. Since when have you seen someone wired off a cigarette cause so much trouble?
When someone breathes, it affects you. Carbon dioxide goes into the atmosphere. What are you going to do, stop everyone from breathing? When someone drives a car, volatile gases get emptied into the atmosphere. I bet you have a car. Whenever you drive, you're making the air worse for all of us. The power plants that supply the power so you can get on the computer, watch TV, listen to music, run your heating/air conditioning, pollute the air constantly. So, before you pinpoint some random smoker for making "your" air dirtier, think of your daily activities. You pollute more than you think.
rtjackson4
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Well said, I haven't thought of it that way. But now I see that everyone pollutes, wether we think we do or not.
My Paper Heart.
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There's other sources for those things though. We could use Solar Power if we REALLY wanted to, and we could have electric cars, and not use fossil fuel. In fact, if we wanted to, we could make a car that would never break down, and never even have a dent or scratch, never need repairs of any kind... But we won't, because the companies that have that technology, also make those repairs and make money off of them.
Cars are necessities. It is very difficult to go from one city to the next without one... You can't argue that cars are worse than smoking, because we NEED cars for transportation. I agree, they are overused, but we still don't NEED people smoking for us to get around.
Power is a necessity. To produce products, to keep use warm during the winter, and to keep us cold during the summer... To compare power generation to smoking, is again, very useless, as power actually does something OTHER than pollute, as well as polluting.
Breathing doesn't put all that much CO2 into the atmosphere, so there's no point even mentioning it. A lot of what is breathed out by us, is taken in by plants for photosynthesis
You really can't compare breathing to smoking either, since plants can handle what we breathe out. Plants have a hard time processing lead and DDTs.
Cars are necessities. It is very difficult to go from one city to the next without one... You can't argue that cars are worse than smoking, because we NEED cars for transportation. I agree, they are overused, but we still don't NEED people smoking for us to get around.
Power is a necessity. To produce products, to keep use warm during the winter, and to keep us cold during the summer... To compare power generation to smoking, is again, very useless, as power actually does something OTHER than pollute, as well as polluting.
Breathing doesn't put all that much CO2 into the atmosphere, so there's no point even mentioning it. A lot of what is breathed out by us, is taken in by plants for photosynthesis
You really can't compare breathing to smoking either, since plants can handle what we breathe out. Plants have a hard time processing lead and DDTs.
mussolini_linguini
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Yeah, but I was making a point to Janglenut, who seems to like targeting smokers for polluting "his" air. While they are polluting the air (it's OUR air, we're ALL breathing it, we all live here), it's not a significant enough amount to warrant THAT much concern. Most pollution comes from the burning of fossil fuels.
But are we using solar power? Do we have electric cars (and I mean in mass quantities, not just one or two experimental prototypes)? No. Fact is, we as humans have grown used to burning fossil fuels - so much so, that it's a chore, a burdensome thought, to even think of switching fuel sources. Not to mention it'd also be very expensive.
You are right, we don't need smoking. Humans, as a whole, would be a lot healthier without it, and we wouldn't have to spend so much money on cancer research. However, as I said before, I was making a point to Janglenut. There are a lot more pollutants than just cigarette smoking.
But are we using solar power? Do we have electric cars (and I mean in mass quantities, not just one or two experimental prototypes)? No. Fact is, we as humans have grown used to burning fossil fuels - so much so, that it's a chore, a burdensome thought, to even think of switching fuel sources. Not to mention it'd also be very expensive.
You are right, we don't need smoking. Humans, as a whole, would be a lot healthier without it, and we wouldn't have to spend so much money on cancer research. However, as I said before, I was making a point to Janglenut. There are a lot more pollutants than just cigarette smoking.